Granted, the part
The globally recommended app by privacy and security experts, Signal, is now being downloaded massively and tops the Danish Google Play Store
is a little ironic, but you gotta push this winning tide and then work from that.
Granted, the part
The globally recommended app by privacy and security experts, Signal, is now being downloaded massively and tops the Danish Google Play Store
is a little ironic, but you gotta push this winning tide and then work from that.
Signal is still centralized US software.
It is the least evil for the ignorant technology end user.
Problem is if they change to Signal now they are less likely to change again to something “better”.
There’s no better. When that hopeful better comes we will all think about it.
pretty big fan of http://delta.chat/ secure and decentralised
Is that not just chat over email? I thought it used to be, and some of the language on the site is still kind of suggestive of it, but it does sound kinda different. Maybe I’m confusing it with something else. If it’s still just fancy email, I’m not sure I like that idea since email has so many privacy issues baked in deep.
i dont know much sorry, think you would want to start with https://chatmail.at/
Telegram is still better, while not being ideal, of course. But at least its servers aren’t located in the USA.
The ideal options are decentralized/p2p, but for now they have very few users (not many less than Signal, to be fair).
The software with encryption disabled by default, no security audits, and rampant spam is better?
E2E encryption it’s not the only feature that matters. By the way, I am not promoting Telegram, I only mean that relying on US-centric infrastructure is bad because you can be disconnected away at any moment.
Telegram is worse. There’s only pedos and russians on it, not to mention the french government having full access to the servers.
telegram is the absolute wirst when it comes to constant spam from scams and bullshit group chats… it’s an utter cesspool.
Elaborate please.
But at least the US government can’t listen in on your conversations, and if they don’t know your phone number, can’t block your specific communications either.
That you know of.
This is from 2020 after the news discovered that yeah actually, the US gov could read your encrypted messages. https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2020/02/12/cia-secretly-bought-global-encryption-provider-built-backdoors-spied-on-100-foreign-governments/
Edit: how fascinating! I’ve been downvoted. Really makes you wonder who is pushing for this adoption of this.
You were downvoted because what you posted is completely irrelevant to Signal. The only way to read the messages is to install spyware on your phone.
It’s the fediverse, signal is sacred and will not be questioned nor criticiced, anyone else who wishes to have a non-US instant messenger gets downvoted to hell.
Wish I was joking but just look at the other guy who dared to like Telegram.
It’s basically signal or matrix in here.
I personally don’t use it, it’s much more suspicious that other messengers get so much flak and signal is defended so fiercely… And it’s also USA based.
Or, or…hear me out in this… Just maybe
You’re fucking wrong and there is no conspiracy to make you look bad
Crazy, I know
you can question signal just as much as you want, but you’d better come with actual arguments rather than just conspiracy, because signal has counters to pretty much every claim that non-experts try to make
signal was built and is run by one of the worlds foremost security researchers and privacy activists
it uses standard encryption that is used in huge numbers of things. if there were a problem with any part of that, the world would have a much bigger problem than individual communications. the US government does not behave in a way that suggests these algorithms are compromised
it has been repeatedly audited by 3rd parties
the fact that it’s US-based is barely worth mentioning… why is that a problem? are you sure it’s not solely a knee-jerk reaction?
it’s free (so you’re not supporting the US economy), the client - and server, though that’s not important because E2EE - is FOSS (so it’s auditable and extendable by anyone: AFAIK they also ensure repeatable builds), the encryption is basically as good as it gets (they even have various protections for quantum computing), their architecture means they can’t even see metadata like senders… so, again, in this case what are you giving up by having it US-based? perhaps a little bit of soft power, perhaps an acknowledgment that in this 1 case the US produced a good product counter to their governments interests
because telegram is not for security or privacy conscious people, despite their marketing: they actively muddy the waters and make people less safe
their encryption is custom, written by mathematicians not cryptographers so doesn’t include features like perfect forward secrecy, replay protection, etc
and their default chat mode isn’t even e2ee - only secret chats use their custom encryption, and nobody actually uses them!
there are numerous sources documenting these problems, and plenty more
it’s okay to like telegram: i like it as a chat app, and i use it for the features it provides… but it’s not okay to say in a privacy and security context that they’re even remotely comparable
True. I was more referring to the fact that nobody has wanted to move away from Meta, Google and Microsoft solutions because of convenience (until now).