Granted, the part

The globally recommended app by privacy and security experts, Signal, is now being downloaded massively and tops the Danish Google Play Store

is a little ironic, but you gotta push this winning tide and then work from that.

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    But at least the US government can’t listen in on your conversations, and if they don’t know your phone number, can’t block your specific communications either.

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        You were downvoted because what you posted is completely irrelevant to Signal. The only way to read the messages is to install spyware on your phone.

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        It’s the fediverse, signal is sacred and will not be questioned nor criticiced, anyone else who wishes to have a non-US instant messenger gets downvoted to hell.

        Wish I was joking but just look at the other guy who dared to like Telegram.
        It’s basically signal or matrix in here.

        I personally don’t use it, it’s much more suspicious that other messengers get so much flak and signal is defended so fiercely… And it’s also USA based.

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          Or, or…hear me out in this… Just maybe

          You’re fucking wrong and there is no conspiracy to make you look bad

          Crazy, I know

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          It’s the fediverse, signal is sacred and will not be questioned nor criticiced

          you can question signal just as much as you want, but you’d better come with actual arguments rather than just conspiracy, because signal has counters to pretty much every claim that non-experts try to make

          signal was built and is run by one of the worlds foremost security researchers and privacy activists

          it uses standard encryption that is used in huge numbers of things. if there were a problem with any part of that, the world would have a much bigger problem than individual communications. the US government does not behave in a way that suggests these algorithms are compromised

          it has been repeatedly audited by 3rd parties

          the fact that it’s US-based is barely worth mentioning… why is that a problem? are you sure it’s not solely a knee-jerk reaction?

          it’s free (so you’re not supporting the US economy), the client - and server, though that’s not important because E2EE - is FOSS (so it’s auditable and extendable by anyone: AFAIK they also ensure repeatable builds), the encryption is basically as good as it gets (they even have various protections for quantum computing), their architecture means they can’t even see metadata like senders… so, again, in this case what are you giving up by having it US-based? perhaps a little bit of soft power, perhaps an acknowledgment that in this 1 case the US produced a good product counter to their governments interests

          the other guy who dared to like Telegram

          because telegram is not for security or privacy conscious people, despite their marketing: they actively muddy the waters and make people less safe

          their encryption is custom, written by mathematicians not cryptographers so doesn’t include features like perfect forward secrecy, replay protection, etc

          and their default chat mode isn’t even e2ee - only secret chats use their custom encryption, and nobody actually uses them!

          there are numerous sources documenting these problems, and plenty more

          it’s okay to like telegram: i like it as a chat app, and i use it for the features it provides… but it’s not okay to say in a privacy and security context that they’re even remotely comparable