London’s murder rate has dropped to its lowest in more than a decade with police in the capital and the mayor saying it is now one of the safest cities in the western world.

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  • plyth@feddit.org
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    2 hours ago

    I agree with the worries, but by the same logic the number from the headline should also be treated as an outlier.

    Crime rates have been dropping all over Europe for decades despite increased immigration, but still right wing parties are rising everywhere.

    This is a setup for failure. If the numbers are not dropping anymore and the left wing is not ready to acknowledge it then they can’t understand why right wing parties are rising. It’s not all just fearmongering that convinces people to vote for the right wing.

    • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.deOP
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      30 minutes ago

      but by the same logic the number from the headline should also be treated as an outlier.

      If the only information we had, yes. We do have mire context though. We do have a specific place and the article gives additional information about the long term trends over decades. That is the relevant context.

      This is a setup for failure. If the numbers are not dropping anymore and the left wing is not ready to acknowledge it

      If, if, if. If the numbers are not dropping anymore, we need more context, yes. For example, we need to look at the development of factors known to influence criminal behavior, like poverty rates, crisis situations, existential worries etc. Rhat is exactly my point the whole time, ffs.
      Also I don’t know what you want to insinuate about the left wing now? At least here in Germany, Die Linke is the only party actually wanting to address issues that contribute to the decision towards criminal activities, like housing crisis, rising cost of living, etc.

      It’s not all just fearmongering that convinces people to vote for the right wing.

      Why do you think that is what I said? I didn’t state anything alike. It’s just the factor we’re discussing.

      • plyth@feddit.org
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        10 minutes ago

        Why do you think that is what I said?

        I was talking about the sentence that I quoted.

        In general I agree with you and I agree with the trend. However, my opinion is that the AfD and other parties wouldn’t be successful if the established parties had acknowledged the outliers.