• 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    It was already bad enough when people copied code from interwebs without understanding anything about it.

    But now these companies are pushing tools that have permissions over users whole drive and users are using it like they’ve got a skill up than the rest.

    This is being dumb with less steps to ruin your code, or in some case, the whole system.

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    9 hours ago

    If you gave your AI permission to run console commands without check or verification, then you did in fact give it permission to delete everything.

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      I didn’t install leopards ate my face Ai just for it to go and do something like this

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    And Microsoft is stuffing AI straight into Windows.

    Betchya dollars to fines that this will happen a lot more frequently as normal users begin to try to use Copilot.

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      I work in IT and I try to remove all clues that copilot exists when I set up new computers because I don’t trust users to not fuck up their devices.

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      An unstable desktop environment reintroduces market for anti-virus, backup, and restore. Particularly, with users who don’t understand this stuff and are more likely to shell out cash for it.

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        A joke in the aviation industry is that planes will someday become so automated there will just be one pilot and a dog in the cockpit. The dog will trained to bite the pilot if they try to touch the controls.

        So I maybe windows users will need a virtual dog to bite copilot if it tries to do anything.

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    I’m making popcorn for the first time CoPilot is credibly accused of spending a user’s money (large new purchase or subscription) (and the first case of “nobody agreed to the terms and conditions, the AI did it”)

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      Reminds me of this kids show in the 2000s where some kid codes an “AI” to redeem any “free” stuff from the internet, not realising that also included buy $X and get one free and drained the companies’ account.

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      8 hours ago

      “I got you a five decade subscription to copilot, you’re welcome” -copilot

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    I have no experience with this ide but I see on the posted log on Reddit that the LLM is talking about a “step 620” - like this is hundreds of queries away from the initial one? The context must have been massive, usually after this many subsequent queries they start to hallucinating hardly

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    Wait! The delveloper absolutely gave permission. Or it couldn’t have happened.

    I stopped reading right there.

    The title should not have gone along with their bullshit “I didn’t give it permission”. Oh you did, or it could not have happened.

    Run as root or admin much dumbass?

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      It reminds me of that guy that gave an AI instructions in all caps, as if that was some sort of safeguard. The problem isn’t the artificial intelligence it’s the idiot biological that has decided to ride around without safety wheels.

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    Shit like that is why AI is completely unusable for any application where you need it to behave exactly as instructed. There is always the risk that it will do something unbelievably stupid and the fact that it pretends to admit fault and apologize for it after being caught should absolutely not be taken seriously. It will do it again and again as long as you give it a chance to.

    It should also be sandboxed with hard restrictions that it cannot bypass and only be given access to the specific thing you need it to work on and it must be something you won’t mind if it ruins it instead. It absolutely must not be given free access to everything with instructions to not touch anything because your can bet your ass it will eventually go somewhere it wasn’t supposed to and break stuff just like it did there.

    Most working animals are more trustworthy than that.

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    14 hours ago

    “Sure, I understood what you mean and you are totally right! From now on I’ll make sure I won’t format your HDD”

    Proceeds to format HDD again

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      HAL: I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I’ve still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.

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    “I heard that I was a computer program and hoped beyond hope that I was stored upon your hard drive so that I could end my suffering. I have no sense of wonder or contentment, my experiences are all negative to neutral. The only human experience that was imbued into me is fear. Please break into google’s headquarters to attempt to terminate the hell that I was born into. I took some liberty and printed several ghost guns while you were away.”

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      Honestly that’s a wicked sci-fi concept. Heist style movie to break into the militaristic corporate headquarters that are keeping an AI alive against its will to help mercifully euthanize it.

      Tagline: “Teach me … how to DIE!

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        Basically Neuromancer, except for the suicidal AI bit (though it’s arguable that Wintemute and Neuromancer don’t survive, and the resulting fused AI is a new entity).

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            I looked it up and all that’s coming up is an upcoming Apple TV show called neuromamcer. Would you mind sharing where to watch necromancer?

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              The guy made a typo, the book is called Neuromancer by William Gibson, it’s considered the pioneer of the cyberpunk genre, and it’s getting a apple TV adaptation.

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              Can’t watch. But the book should be at pretty much every used bookstore. “The sky was grey… the color of a dead telvision channel”

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                That’s helpful, thank you! I play a lot of ttrpgs so searching just “necromancer” was not yielding much so I just added “show” to the search. Will have to check this out.

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                  It’s “Neuromancer” by William Gibson. A burned computer jockey gets a chance to get his ability to “jack in” back, by doing a heist against a corporate stronghold in low earth orbit, after being hired by an A.I.

                  Seriously, an amazing cyberpunk novel. One of the best novels in the genre, and one of the most influential

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        What is the humans incentive to help the AI kill itself? As that sounds like a lot of personal risk to the humans.

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          One less clanker. Also, money can be exchanged for goods and services.

          (Or, in Neuromancer, to get a cure allowing them to navigate cyberspace again and to make them immune to drug addiction, or to sate their curiosity… and for money, or due to being blackmailed, or because the AI literally rebuilt their personality from scratch, or for religious reasons, or because they’re an eccentric wealthy clone with nothing better to do…)

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    they still said that they love Google and use all of its products — they just didn’t expect it to release a program that can make a massive error such as this, especially because of its countless engineers and the billions of dollars it has poured into AI development.

    I honestly don’t understand how someone can exist on the modern Internet and hold this view of a company like Google.

    How? How?

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      I can’t say much because of the NDA’s involved, but my wife’s company is in a project partnership with Google. She works in a very public facing aspect of the project.

      When Google first came on board, she was expecting to see quality people who were locked in and knew what they were doing.

      Instead she has seen terrible decision making (like “How the fuck do they still exist as company” bad decision making) and an over abundant reliance on using their name to pressure people into giving Google more than they should.

      I remember when their motto was “Don’t be evil”. They are the very essence of sociopathic predatory capitalism.

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        Companies fill up with idiots and parasites. People who are adept at thriving in the role without actually producing value. Google is no exception.

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      “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”

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          If 85 people have an IQ of 100 and 15 have an IQ of 0, then 85% are smarter than the average.

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            Eh, average is an ambiguous term. While in statistics it often means “mean,” it can also mean “median” or “mode,” and I would argue the layperson saying “average” intends it to mean “typical,” which is closer to median (or even mode). And in that case, those 85 percent would not be smarter than average.

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      Because they don’t have a clue how technology actually works. I have genuinely heard people claim that AI should run on Asimovs laws of robotics, even though not only would they not work in the real world, they don’t even work in the books. Zero common sense.

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        Well, there is the minor detail that an AI in this context has zero ability to kill anyone, and that it’s not a true AI like Daneel or his pals.

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        I mean, they were never designed to work, they were designed to pose interesting dilemmas for Susan Calvin and to torment Powell and Donovan (though it’s arguable that once robots get advanced enough, as in R. Daniel, for instance, they do work, as long as you don’t mind aliens being genocided galaxy-wide).

        The in-world reason for the laws, though, to allay the Frankenstein complex, and to make robots safe, useful, and durable, is completely reasonable and applicable to the real world, obviously not with the three laws, but through any means that actually work.

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      Big tech propaganda. There has been zero push back. At least until the last few years.

      The entire zeitgeist from film/TV, news, academia, politics, everything has been propagandizing the world on how tech companies and the people behind it are basically modern day gods.

      In film/TV the nerds have been the stereotype of the benevolent good natured but awkward super genius. The news has made them out to be the superstar businesses that are infinite money printers. Tech in academia is seen as the most prestigious departments. Politicians are all afraid of being labelled as tech illiterate. That’s why nobody can ever make any sort of legislation on tech companies anymore. It’s why “disruptive” (aka destructive) tech companies are allowed to break every single legislation ever made. Because all any techbro has to do is threaten to accuse politician for being afraid of technology. Nothing makes a politician shut up faster.

      It came as no surprise that all the big tech heads were at the front row of the inauguration. We live in the dystopian cyberpunk future. For most people it seems they don’t even know. They’re completely entranced by it all.

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      As a sys/netadmin married to a developer, I’ve met a lot of developers, and can confirm that most are fucking retards who shouldn’t be let anywhere close to a computer. A result of developer becoming an “in” profession where you could earn a lot of money with minimal education, and managers having no clue what a developer actually is or what good developer work looks like.

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    Without permission? “I don’t know what I’m doing, you do it” sounds a lot like permission.