Supposedly, I am a human, who does very human things.
bud this is all tldr.
There are 2 sides that you can vote for in American politics.
That’s not being unable to see nuance, that’s being able to see facts.
You seem stuck on making a point that is irrelevant and increasingly more incorrect.
I can’t care to engage with someone who isn’t reading what I’m saying. It would just be talking past each other.
Your post starts with a sloganeering, hyper-reductive take of what I wrote.
This is such a hopelessly lazy dismissal of that criticism I’m just going to ignore it and hope you have anything better to offer.
Nope. Skimmed through it and you’re still making the same strawman argument. I guess there is nothing more to say here if you don’t recognize it.
Burden of proof? You literally just made your first point about anything I said, I shouldn’t have even wasted the time responding.
You are really staking your argument on thinking companies don’t get consequences for software fuckups?
I’m sure you’ll make up some excuses for why somehow none of these count, but the list is so deep you could debate every example here and 10 more would pop up. Tons more happens behind the scenes too with SLA contracts etc.
This sounds like you knew you were wrong all along but still wanted to be a snide, condescending, and undeservedly arrogant about it.
The fact that some don’t doesn’t mean that none do.
You go do some leg work before requesting it of me after thinking you could just troll your way out of your ridiculous initial comment
Reading your other comments outside this thread, this whole chain seems so illogical. What triggered this bizarre emotional reaction to such a relatively innocuous comment? You must have been reading something in.
This is Politics, it’s not 1D or 2D, it’s N-Dimensional
This is the point I made and that your comment ignored.
it’s not just possible but pretty much a Mathematical certainty than in a country were there are only 2 parties they will match perfectly on some dimensions, even whilst not at all matching in others.
This is a strawman. No person is claiming they don’t have any aligning opinions.
Trying to dismiss away that aspect of Reality (which is incoveninent for tribalists) with sloganeering like “bothsiderism” is just parroting propaganda meant for simpletons who see reality as having just one dimension where there is nothing more than 2 sides.
This is you continuing to argue against the strawman.
The rest is also that.
With the amount you’ve typed you could have easily typed a rationale. The truth is your opinions don’t hold weight and have no good rationale. That is all.
They are fine with this trade
This is pure pseudo intellectualism because you literally have no argument or point.
You have no reasoning and are projecting that onto me because you can’t explain this opinion your feelings have brought you to.
This bothsiderism is pretty thoughtless.
It is true that both contribute to a surveillance state but to equate both is to just ignore all policy differences, actions and more to pretend to be nuanced while painting everything as the same shade of grey, which is a downgrade to even black and white thinking.
I like the part where you have no details or arguments, just vibes.
I don’t think this is wise at all.
Its just people putting into words their wish to be able to punish and appoint blame above their wishes to be pragmatic.
If software is better at something, there is no reason to be mad at that software.
More than that, the idea that the software vendor could not be held liable is farcical. Of course they could be, or the company running said software. In fact, they’d probably get more shit than managers who regularly get away with ridiculous shit.
I mean wage theft is the biggest form of theft for a reason, and none of the wage thieves are machines (or at least most aren’t).
know the kind of people you’re actually talking about. There is still value in electing the lesser evil, and pushing to get better and more progressive Dems in office (that are usually better at pushing back against fascism anyways)
This is exactly my point. The democrats have huge AIPAC backing and support some awful things, but they are fucking saints compared to the only other options in this political system.
They are the only potential vehicles for long term change and stability exactly the way you described.
Progressive candidates have to be winning primaries despite swimming upstream, and democrats have to continue winning federally despite the bad taste (chemo) they put in your mouth.
The crazy thing is that so many issues matter all at once.
And yet still, somewhere out there, there is a fake or brain dead leftist spouting on about how democrats support genocide.
“Chemo makes me sick, so Ill stick with Cancer”
The noose keeps tightening.
Google also has been trying to argue that modifying client side javascript is equivalent to hacking.
Modifying code running on your own fucking machine, in your own fucking browser.
This is great. Where did you find this?
They might not need it to last longer than that.
This is a takeover.
The most important thing is to first have a governing body that governs the police, without being police.
Without this, nothing here matters because they haze, and brutalize those who do not conform to their awful internal group standards.
You can literally see what happens to good cops. They get forced out.
The problem with your post, is that you can’t help someone who does not want to be helped.
Ideally that type of person would be kicked out of the force, but instead they comprise of the majority of these forces.
Just to be clear, many if not most agencies have mandatory psych evals, visits etc after different types of incidents, but as you can see, they just don’t solve the problem.
Oh absolutely, but even TVs are used in different contexts.
Like the thing about text applies to console games, applies to menus, applies to certain types of high detail media etc.
It’s actually ok!
In reality, there wouldn’t be a void, but instead, simply a severe obstruction of flow!
Instead, both sides would be filled with decreasingly oxygenated blood as your heart continues to be less and less capable of oxygenating itself, eventually succumbing after a spat of looking like this robotic art piece.
Personally I feel that the hate for AI is misplaced (mostly, as I do get there is a lot of nuance regarding peoples feelings on training sourcing etc). Partially because its such a wide catch all term, and then mostly, by far, because all of the problems with AI are actually just problems with the underlying crony capitalism in charge of its development right now.
Every problem like AI “lacking empathy” is down to the people using it not caring to keep it out of places where it fails to accomplish such goals or where they are explicitly using it to strip people of their humanity; something that inherently lacks empathy.
If you take away the horrible business motivations etc, I think its pretty undeniable AI is and will be a great technology for a lot of purposes and not for a lot of the ones its used for now (this continued idea that all UI can be replaced such that programmers wont be needed for specific apps and other such uses).
Obviously we can’t just separate that but I think its important to think about especially regarding regulation. That’s because I believe that big AI currently is practically begging to be regulated such that the moat to create useful AI becomes so large that no useful open source general purpose AI tools can exist without corporate backing. That’s I think one of their end goals along with making it far more expensive to become a competitor.
That being said this is a little bit out of hand in that this was about software in general, and regarding that and AI, I do believe empathy can be included, and built correctly, a computer system could have a lot more empathy than most human beings who typically only have meaningful empathy towards people they personally empathize with in their actions, which leads to awful systemic discrimination reinforcing practices.
As for the flock example, I think its almost certain they got in with some backroom deals, and in a more fair world… where those still exist somehow, the police department would have a contract with some sort of stipulations regarding what happens with false identifications. The police officers also would not be traumatizing people over stolen property in the first place.
That is all to say, I think that often when software is blamed, what should actually be blamed is the business goals that lead to the creation of that software and the people behind them. The software is after all automation of the will of the owners.