• Bizzle@lemmy.world
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    Do trumpers like weed? Most of the ones I know give me a hard time about “smoking drugs”

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      It is a mixed bag, some support legalization and smoking weed. A lot of the MAGA base are older, 60’s (era of flower power, drugs, freedom) gen that sold out their peace/no war to become CEO’s and fuck over the workers, yet still like to party. The other side are more religious, so “god” has told them (in their minds, I guess) that weed and all drugs are bad. Pharmaceuticals though, are welcome, in hand-fulls. It is all fuzzy math, really.

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    Land stolen from the Native Americans in almost all cases. (That’s different from the other items in this list, which were produced or invented or traded.)

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      I would argue that apple pie was “stolen” since they have a whole phrase “as american as apple pie” when it isn’t even american. It wasn’t traded. It likely came with the brits et al, that colonised america. And since has become a staple of american culture.

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        You’d be wrong. Apple and other fruit tarts may have been present in Europe, but a significant amount of American deserts originated with the Pennsylvania Deuch.

        This comic is actually just bait though as is conflates “learned from” with “stolen” over and over again. Bigots dont have a problem with taking things they like from other cultures over centuries. They dont like people they see as different from them right now.

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          I mean, from what i can see by googling it, it does seem like it originaled in england and was brought over to america. The apple trees in america were crab apple trees and were useless for making apple pie. The apple trees you use were brought over and domesticated before baring fruit that could be used in the dish.

          Also, when i say stolen, i am talking about using a dish that didn’t originate in the USA to define the USA. But to mean that this pie is culturally american and patriotic. Except ironically it actually just proves how american culture is born of many many different cultures that came before it, and being proud to be american whilst simultaneously wanting anyone who isnt white to get out of the country is so idiotic and backwards.

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    Apples themselves originated in Kazakhstan 👍

    Lemons, northwestern India.

    The American flag in the background should also be marked as, “Made in China” 😁

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    Hey now! Germans created sausages with love and a sense of pride. Hotdogs require hate and poverty to be made correctly.

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        I think the image is only looking at where the plant originated. Weed came from the Himilayas, in Asia. If it was strictly where the stuff you’re consuming were grown, then the apples in the apple pie, lemons in the lemonade, cabbage from the coleslaw, corn on the cob, and the hot dogs would all probably be considered American since that’s most likely where they were grown/made.

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        Yeah I meant as in it’s produced locally-ish not necessarily by you yourself.

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    Only flaw is that they’re drinking Modelo and not Busch, the brand that makes beer in camo cans. 10/10 no notes.

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    This is stupid and wrong. Just because something you produce and consume originally came from some special island does not give them eternal ownership of it.

    And apple pie didn’t come from England. Apple is cultivated nearly everywhere.

    Edit: the Cracker also came from Europe.

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        I get the point of the meme, but just because you enjoy one aspect of a culture, does not mean you enjoy the whole culture. I enjoy smørrebrød, but not the danish drinking culture.

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        It’s not pedantic. It’s just that stuff enters the public domain at some point. Claiming we owe anyone for inventing the wheel would be lunacy, too. The only legitimate criticism is the hat.

        Indian land is complicated.

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          The point isn’t ownership(except maybe the land), its the complaint about culture. Food is definitely a part of culture, so these guys are enjoying culture from other lands they’re scared of. They also benefit from other cultures, either because of cheaper products/labor, or just what they produce.

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            At what point does a culture incorporate another cultures foods though? In my opinion ca. 100 years.

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              You’re either missing the point again, or intentionally asking at what point you can stop acknowledging prior contributions to claim it as your own. Let’s change it from food.

              “At what point can I claim I invented math after it was taught to me?” - as long as it was taught and you didn’t discover it completely on your own, never. The work was built on the work of those that came before.

              “At what point can I claim I invented computer technology without any assistance from any societies, technologies, or ideas from previous people or previous civilizations?” - If at birth you were left on a deserted island, and by yourself survived, created all tech by yourself, then yes. Otherwise, never.

              So while you can say “Apple pie is part of American culture” and be correct, it will also always be true that American culture got parts of its culture from other cultures.

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          At least 10 other people think you’re being a pedantic douche, and you’re still gonna dig your heels in on this one…I guess that’s an option.

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            People disagreeing with me does not invalidate my opinion and it is likely they in part downvote since I am somewhat defending maga Nazis. Dogpiling and of course I am an annoyed “old” person, that’s sick of people using ancient revolutions to show how much we can benefit from internationalism. There are plenty of good reasons. But discovering new crops in foreign lands is none of them.

            Also I belief most products are a common good and don’t belong to anybody to pay tribute to. You don’t get credit for someone related to you did 1000 years ago.

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              God, you are so insufferable. I’m really glad I dont know you in real life. You’re not even wrong, you are just being a jackass, and you are refusing to admit it.