• Gladaed@feddit.org
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    This is stupid and wrong. Just because something you produce and consume originally came from some special island does not give them eternal ownership of it.

    And apple pie didn’t come from England. Apple is cultivated nearly everywhere.

    Edit: the Cracker also came from Europe.

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        19 hours ago

        I get the point of the meme, but just because you enjoy one aspect of a culture, does not mean you enjoy the whole culture. I enjoy smørrebrød, but not the danish drinking culture.

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        23 hours ago

        It’s not pedantic. It’s just that stuff enters the public domain at some point. Claiming we owe anyone for inventing the wheel would be lunacy, too. The only legitimate criticism is the hat.

        Indian land is complicated.

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          The point isn’t ownership(except maybe the land), its the complaint about culture. Food is definitely a part of culture, so these guys are enjoying culture from other lands they’re scared of. They also benefit from other cultures, either because of cheaper products/labor, or just what they produce.

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            At what point does a culture incorporate another cultures foods though? In my opinion ca. 100 years.

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              You’re either missing the point again, or intentionally asking at what point you can stop acknowledging prior contributions to claim it as your own. Let’s change it from food.

              “At what point can I claim I invented math after it was taught to me?” - as long as it was taught and you didn’t discover it completely on your own, never. The work was built on the work of those that came before.

              “At what point can I claim I invented computer technology without any assistance from any societies, technologies, or ideas from previous people or previous civilizations?” - If at birth you were left on a deserted island, and by yourself survived, created all tech by yourself, then yes. Otherwise, never.

              So while you can say “Apple pie is part of American culture” and be correct, it will also always be true that American culture got parts of its culture from other cultures.

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          23 hours ago

          At least 10 other people think you’re being a pedantic douche, and you’re still gonna dig your heels in on this one…I guess that’s an option.

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            22 hours ago

            People disagreeing with me does not invalidate my opinion and it is likely they in part downvote since I am somewhat defending maga Nazis. Dogpiling and of course I am an annoyed “old” person, that’s sick of people using ancient revolutions to show how much we can benefit from internationalism. There are plenty of good reasons. But discovering new crops in foreign lands is none of them.

            Also I belief most products are a common good and don’t belong to anybody to pay tribute to. You don’t get credit for someone related to you did 1000 years ago.

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              God, you are so insufferable. I’m really glad I dont know you in real life. You’re not even wrong, you are just being a jackass, and you are refusing to admit it.