• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    German has the cool feature of just cramming a bunch of words together to make a new word. That’s about the only thing I know about it as someone who’s just interested in language as a concept.

    For people interested in language who speak English, I will recommend this book, which kinda blew my mind explaining why my native tongue is so stupid for good reasons:

    Highly Irregular: Why Tough, Through, and Dough Don’t Rhyme and Other Oddities of the English Language

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      It’s really not that different.

      German: Dampfschiffkapitän

      English: steam boat captain

      German, if compound words worked like in English: Dampf Schiff Kapitän

      English, if compound words worked like in German: steamboatcaptain

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        Well, English prefers genitive constructions, and rarely compounds more than two words, so native English speakers have trouble to parse words like Kindercarnavalsoptochtvoorbereidingswerkzaamhedencomitéleden, Speciallægepraksisplanlægningsstabiliseringsperiode or Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz, despite compounding being a core feature of Germanic languages, not only German. English just cought a severe case of French back in 1066…-

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          I hope you’re aware that words like Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz aren’t exactly easy to understand for Germans, either. If there’s one thing English is usually really good at, it’s dumbing things down to a level that’s easy to understand for the reader; some scientific texts are genuinely easier to understand in the English translation than in the German original, even if you’re a native German speaker with a relevant university degree.

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      English isn’t stupid. It’s organic. Just like any other language. Two native English speakers can communicate with each other clearly and easily, which is the point of language. Saying a language is stupid because it is difficult to learn by non-native speakers, or because it is easy to get your wrist slapped by a hard-nosed grammarian is just hand-wringing.

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        Learn about the Great Vowel Shift and how the timing for it, as well as the timing of the printing press, created a mess of a language with few consistent rules. It’s a stupid (written) language because history made it that way.

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          I mean, you are kind of missing my point. Native English speakers (or writers) can communicate easily with each other. That is literally the only thing that matters in a language. The consistency of grammatical rules is irrelevant.

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            I didn’t miss your point. You missed mine, which I clarified by adding (written) to make it clear that I wasn’t talking about spoken language. We can speak. That’s fine. The book that I initially referenced is about the written language and I made an effort to clarify that. You didn’t pick up that I was only calling the written language stupid. But I also talked about the introduction of the printing press relative to the Great Vowel Shift, and you missed that too. It was always about writing, spelling, pronunciation, and grammatical rules: things that don’t matter in spoken language.