Several European lawmakers have urged the EU to impose restrictive measures on ICE, arguing that the agency should not operate in Europe due to concerns over democratic oversight and human rights. #EuropeNews
What POSSIBLE authority would ICE have in any other country? In this country, they’re backed by the president, but that doesn’t hold water anywhere else.
If anything, I hope EU DOES let them in, and then the second they try anything, whichever country would arrest them. Does EU have the death penalty?
We do not have the death penalty, it is banned in the charter on human rights and abolishing it was a requirement for joining for those countries which still had it on the books, although it was more or less phased out in all European countries by the time that happened.
The EU luckily does not have a death penalty. Even for people like ICE, no state should ever kill another person, because it is exactly this type of mentality that has created ICE and enabled their gang violence. States killing bad guys is all fun and games until the bad guy definition shifts towards you. Would you like to find yourself at the end of some ICE thug’s barrel?
Some NATO contries have agreements with the US on how to handle service members, not sure if all of ICE/DHS falls under that, but it is there to keep US personel at military bases safe from their own actions and the target contries laws. The US pinky promises in the agreements to prosecute the persons under US law if the country just hands them over with no fuss. Under current conditions in the US, I take that to mean that US service members can commit any crime in any nation with such an agreement without any consquences.
On top of that there is the ‘invade the Hague act’, but that is just for war crimes.
And I don’t think any EU country have the death penalty (even “life” generally means like <20 years).
What POSSIBLE authority would ICE have in any other country? In this country, they’re backed by the president, but that doesn’t hold water anywhere else.
If anything, I hope EU DOES let them in, and then the second they try anything, whichever country would arrest them. Does EU have the death penalty?
We do not have the death penalty, it is banned in the charter on human rights and abolishing it was a requirement for joining for those countries which still had it on the books, although it was more or less phased out in all European countries by the time that happened.
The EU luckily does not have a death penalty. Even for people like ICE, no state should ever kill another person, because it is exactly this type of mentality that has created ICE and enabled their gang violence. States killing bad guys is all fun and games until the bad guy definition shifts towards you. Would you like to find yourself at the end of some ICE thug’s barrel?
Well except the boats fortress Europa pushes back into the sea but we don’t talk about them
That doesn’t count, there is no trial so no sentence. The mediterranen mass grave is just the result of thousands of regrettable isolated incidents.
(/s in case that’s not clear enough)
Who said that’s better?
Some NATO contries have agreements with the US on how to handle service members, not sure if all of ICE/DHS falls under that, but it is there to keep US personel at military bases safe from their own actions and the target contries laws. The US pinky promises in the agreements to prosecute the persons under US law if the country just hands them over with no fuss. Under current conditions in the US, I take that to mean that US service members can commit any crime in any nation with such an agreement without any consquences.
On top of that there is the ‘invade the Hague act’, but that is just for war crimes.
And I don’t think any EU country have the death penalty (even “life” generally means like <20 years).
ICE are NOT service members. They are civilians.
Some people will argue that they are federal law enforcement, but the fact that they regularly disregard the laws proves that to be false.
them disregarding the law is about as acab as it gets