London’s murder rate has dropped to its lowest in more than a decade with police in the capital and the mayor saying it is now one of the safest cities in the western world.
London’s murder rate has dropped to its lowest in more than a decade with police in the capital and the mayor saying it is now one of the safest cities in the western world.
You can’t have it both ways. Above you are arguing for nuances but now focussing on the most relevant crime is wrong? “All crimes” includes crimes against immigration laws and shop lifting on one side and tax evasion on the other. I doubt that those are relevant to the discussion.
I don’t understand this.
Then that has to be changed. Otherwise the left reduces itself to a tool for the creation of the appearance of democracy.
Who is not winning?
That’s the point where the AfD is winning. The default reaction can’t be to start with talking it away.
Should be its own category. If not that would be a huge manipulation.
I mean, again, it’s abiut how to handle statistics and formulate arguments based on them. When a statement is made that “crime rates are [generally] going down”, you cannot refute that by cherrypicking one statistic with a specific context.
What doyou not understand about that?
Obviosly.
How so? How is a political movement with comparatively little influence that actually demands said change not only becoming a fig leaf for democracy but making itself one when their demand is not fulfilled? That’s not how societal change works.
What? Are you trolling now?
No, AfD is not winning at that because examining an event’s root cause is not “talking it away”. This (your) rhetoric (which is very close to AfD talking points) and it being adopted by main stream media and influential figures is what benefits the AfD. Acting for action’s sake is not helping anything.
Again, that’s why context and breakdowns of data is important. The german PKS (which is a very imperfect but unfortunately our only accessible statistic in Germany about crime (AFAIK)) lists politically motivated crimes and breaks it down into left/right, propaganda offenses, violent offenses, etc. Feel free to subtract right wing motivated violent offenses (and left wing motivated crimes against right wing persons (aka confrontational violence) as that is mostly motivated by a rise of violence from the right) and then compare the statistics of violent crimes over the years again. A quick web search brought up a rise of 17.2 percent rise in right wing motivated violence in 2024.
And yes, a twisted and out-of-context representation of statistics is bread and butter for right wing populists. They tell you that violence is growing again and that migrants are zo nlame and you should be scared of darker-skinned people. They tell you that migrants are overrepresented in crime statistics. But they don’t tell you that right wing motivated violence is growing fastest and that most of migrant crimes are crimes against immigration laws and that a lot of migrant violence is directed against other migrants.
That is why we need to look into the details and why “let’s look into the details and find out root causes” is fucking not “talking it away”.
Btw, you want to act on rising crime rates? Build youth centres. Help the poor. Raise social security. Fight worker exploitation. Invest in education. Etc pp.
I go to bed.