• _cnt0@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    31·
    2 days ago

    I use fedora as a daily driver and debian for everything that just needs to do one thing for possibly decades to come with as little maintenance as possible.

      • rumschlumpel@feddit.orgEnglish
        12·
        2 days ago

        Sometimes, you do need some newer packages (e.g. for gaming), and Debian is … not very good at facilitating that, even if it’s usually possible, in theory, to install newer packages from Sid. Flatpaks or manually installing stuff through git etc. help, but that doesn’t work well for stuff like GPU drivers.

        • Magnum, P.I.@infosec.pubEnglish
          2·
          1 day ago

          I game without problems on Debian Stable for years. Everyone keeps saying that and I didnt have a single problem because of “old packages”

          • Holytimes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            6 hours ago

            You likely have old hardware and play old games. Which is fine on Debian.

            Try playing day 1 releases of major titles on brand new hardware weeks after it releases.

            It’s not fun.

            • Magnum, P.I.@infosec.pubEnglish
              1·
              5 hours ago

              Yes I rarely play day one releases, but I did with some titles, from the top of my head there was Tony Hawk Pro Skater remastered, Lies of P, Baldurs Gate 3 and Path of Excile 2.

              It worked pretty good, what exact package is it that you are looking for that makes gaming on Debian impossible in regards to something like PopOs or Ubuntu, I mean you do realize that they are Debian systems right? Of course if I get a RTX 5090 on day one, I will run into issues, but I am using AMD Hardware, I don’t really have any problems. But I would argue, that running on day one hardware with a fresh 9000 Dollar RTX 6090, you are not an average user nor are you an average gamer.

          • fennesz12@feddit.dkEnglish
            1·
            1 day ago

            What’s your hardware? I have an NVIDIA GeForce 5090, and I got the impression that debian wouldn’t be the best choice from my searches. I went with pop os instead, and while Wayland and driver support works great (Safe for some vendor specific issues like LCD and sensors not working), cosmic is honestly too much of a hassle to use right now.

          • rumschlumpel@feddit.orgEnglish
            1·
            1 day ago

            It depends on the games you play and how long you wait after a game’s release. Maybe if your GPU is from NVIDIA, AMD/Radeon or Intel. I use Ubuntu LTS on my main PC and every once in a while, there is a game that just doesn’t work until I install newer drivers and kernels (the newer packages get automatically disabled when you do a major version update, so I can test this about every 2 years). I have no reason to believe that this would be any different on Debian stable.

              • rumschlumpel@feddit.orgEnglish
                1·
                1 day ago

                I do have it installed, even did some gaming with it. It’s not better at gaming. I’ve been considering to switch because I do agree that Canonical definitely sucks more than the Debian project - it’s just that none of the issues that Canonical has make Debian a better gaming distro.

      • _cnt0@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        9·
        2 days ago

        My set of requirements for a daily driver is very different. From experience, I’ll end up with a frankendebian that requires much more manual intervention and has a high risk of breaking during updates.

        • Skullgrid@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          2 days ago

          fair point. I fucked my install trying to make my overheating issues go away, but after going onto nobara, pika os I think the issues are here to stay. I’m going to try to stop overtinkering to stop getting frankendebian

    • toynbee@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago

      I would use Debian more if I didn’t have to remember whether to use apt or yum every time I ssh’d into a random server on my network.

      • pulsewidth@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 day ago

        I think this is why some people use Neofetch (and its contemporaries).

        It helps give a quick rundown of server specs, OS, etc to help remind you of the command mindset you need to be operating in when you connect to a new machine remotely - just quickly run your info tool of choice.

        • toynbee@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          1 day ago

          Yeah, or I could put something in the prompt, I’ve considered writing an alias or function so instead of yum or apt I could just run install and let the system run what it must.

          It’s not really a big concern, though. I don’t run that many systems and I reimage them with different distros often enough that it hasn’t been worth addressing for me.

          Thank you for the suggestion though!