• rumschlumpel@feddit.orgEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Sometimes, you do need some newer packages (e.g. for gaming), and Debian is … not very good at facilitating that, even if it’s usually possible, in theory, to install newer packages from Sid. Flatpaks or manually installing stuff through git etc. help, but that doesn’t work well for stuff like GPU drivers.

    • Magnum, P.I.@infosec.pubEnglish
      2·
      1 day ago

      I game without problems on Debian Stable for years. Everyone keeps saying that and I didnt have a single problem because of “old packages”

      • Holytimes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        6 hours ago

        You likely have old hardware and play old games. Which is fine on Debian.

        Try playing day 1 releases of major titles on brand new hardware weeks after it releases.

        It’s not fun.

        • Magnum, P.I.@infosec.pubEnglish
          1·
          5 hours ago

          Yes I rarely play day one releases, but I did with some titles, from the top of my head there was Tony Hawk Pro Skater remastered, Lies of P, Baldurs Gate 3 and Path of Excile 2.

          It worked pretty good, what exact package is it that you are looking for that makes gaming on Debian impossible in regards to something like PopOs or Ubuntu, I mean you do realize that they are Debian systems right? Of course if I get a RTX 5090 on day one, I will run into issues, but I am using AMD Hardware, I don’t really have any problems. But I would argue, that running on day one hardware with a fresh 9000 Dollar RTX 6090, you are not an average user nor are you an average gamer.

      • fennesz12@feddit.dkEnglish
        1·
        1 day ago

        What’s your hardware? I have an NVIDIA GeForce 5090, and I got the impression that debian wouldn’t be the best choice from my searches. I went with pop os instead, and while Wayland and driver support works great (Safe for some vendor specific issues like LCD and sensors not working), cosmic is honestly too much of a hassle to use right now.

      • rumschlumpel@feddit.orgEnglish
        1·
        1 day ago

        It depends on the games you play and how long you wait after a game’s release. Maybe if your GPU is from NVIDIA, AMD/Radeon or Intel. I use Ubuntu LTS on my main PC and every once in a while, there is a game that just doesn’t work until I install newer drivers and kernels (the newer packages get automatically disabled when you do a major version update, so I can test this about every 2 years). I have no reason to believe that this would be any different on Debian stable.

          • rumschlumpel@feddit.orgEnglish
            1·
            1 day ago

            I do have it installed, even did some gaming with it. It’s not better at gaming. I’ve been considering to switch because I do agree that Canonical definitely sucks more than the Debian project - it’s just that none of the issues that Canonical has make Debian a better gaming distro.