Granted, the part

The globally recommended app by privacy and security experts, Signal, is now being downloaded massively and tops the Danish Google Play Store

is a little ironic, but you gotta push this winning tide and then work from that.

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    As I wrote before, trustworthy apps register their connection at the registry.

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      You are not making sense. You can register as many apps as you want, if there is no way to distinguish non-registered app traffic from regular internet traffic.

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        There is no need to distinguish the traffic. IP adresses and ports identify the streams.

        The app creates a connection and registers both IPs and ports at the registry.

        Then the app starts sending data.

        The first router at an internet exchange point asks the registry if the IPs and ports are registered. If they are, the packets are delivered, if not they are dropped.

        That way no unregistered app can exchange data.

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            All websites keep working. All commercial apps will be adjusted and keep working. At first users just receive warnings and all apps keep working.

            The internet won’t shut down when finally the packets are dropped. Only democracy will die, silently.

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              Look, this discussion is going nowhere, as you clearly have no idea how the internet actually functions. If websites keep working you can continue sending e2e encrypted messages from an unregistered app. Please educate yourself first and then you will realize how nonsensical your idea is.

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                If websites keep working you can continue sending e2e encrypted messages from an unregistered app.

                You can also send e2ee messages with Whatsapp if you copy and paste them. At some point, encryption of messages doesn’t help because it’s suspicious enough that further investigations are triggered.

                Of course you can create a secret messenger service hidden on a regular website. But it’s either unknown which makes it useless, or popular which will attract an investigation.

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                  No, any normal easy to use federated XMPP app will work with built in e2ee. There is no real difference between an app communicating with a server and a browser communicating with a webserver, and for an outside observer there is no easy way to tell them apart.

                  Please educate yourself better about this topic. You make yourself look really stupid 🤷

                  Oh and WhatApp is already e2ee.

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                    The problem is

                    The EU is likely to make e2e messaging illegal before the USA cuts access.

                    So everything on a server must be accessable and all regular messengers with e2ee must have a backdoor.

                    So the only possibility for secure communications are direct connections that no server can scan with AI.

                    Shut that down, too, and no community bigger than a couple of people can communicate unsupervised.