• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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    in Korea it was difficult to get aid to the villages on the front for obvious reasons. so some smartass thought, “if we can’t bring the aid to the people, let’s bring the people to the aid”.

    we shouldn’t allow a simple problem like logistics get in the way of saving lives.

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      “A simple problem like logistics,” is a phrase only uttered by those who have never worked in large scale operations.

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        As someone with a decade in logistics… yup.

        Honestly though, the biggest obstacles to the arterial flow of the supply chain are always political. Logistics is insanely complex, from an organizational perspective, but that complexity isn’t what prevents aid and food making it to sick, hungry people. If we wanted to, on a political level, unify and end world hunger, we could do it. We have the tools and network.

        We don’t have the universal level of compassion and sense of prioritization for tearing down borders and creating a system to make the world better.

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        you have a great future in the field of logistics!

        I guess you didn’t understand the hidden meaning behind my words that human life is a far larger goal than meeting logistical requirements.

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          that’s like saying that human life is a far larger goal than physics

          you can’t just hand wave it away because you deem human life to be “worth it”. it exists and it’s a real problem, and it’s a complex problem even with unlimited money

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            that’s like saying that human life is a far larger goal than physics

            no, it’s not. it’s literally saying saving a human life is a larger goal than logistics.

            you can’t just hand wave it away because you deem human life to be “worth it”.

            I can, because it is. If we don’t try everything to save a life and simply shrug the responsibility with the excuse of “sorry, but it’s just not logistically possible to save this person”, then what’s the point saving anyone?

            it exists and it’s a real problem, and it’s a complex problem even with unlimited money

            I think I see what happened here. you only read part of this chain. you clearly missed the part where I said,

            if we can’t bring the aid to the people, let’s bring the people to the aid

            logistics is a tool used to solve problems. stop using it as an excuse to let people die.

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              19 hours ago

              human life is a larger goal than logistics.

              logistics isn’t a goal; it’s problem that you have to solve to achieve a goal

              If we don’t try everything to save a life

              human life does have a value cap: would you plunge the world into borderline starvation in order to save a single life? no? well then a single human life is worth less than the happiness of the entire human race… the bar is somewhere above that

              you’re trivialising a lot of complex things… public health has similar questions where the value of life and health is measured in aggregate

              sorry, but it’s just not logistically possible to save this person

              literally what happens every day in public health… resources are not unlimited, and so you have to make choices and trade offs

              you only read part of this chain

              nope i read the whole thing, its just that

              if we can’t bring the aid to the people, let’s bring the people to the aid

              is still a logistics problem… public transport is a logistics problem, shipping is a logistics problem, air schedules are a tiny part of the air travel logistics problem

              moving people and things to where they need to be at the time that they’re needed is logistics

              logistics is a tool used to solve problems. stop using it as an excuse to let people die.

              logistics is a problem space that you need to solve before you achieve outcomes: it comes before, not after and you can’t start without solving logistics problems

              in terms of distribution of medicine and aid, it’s basically the only problem that needs solving: we have plenty of food, we have plenty of medicine, and not for profits aren’t wanting for these things… they’re wanting for ways to get it where it’s needed