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    you interpret it as supporting the US?? But now, Trump doesn’t like that anymore?

    Yes, like the Chinese surplus.

    I just think it is wild

    It is, but why should it be different?

    despite evidence for the contrary.

    If some linux servers are enough, that would be nice. It is possible that it is the impulse that fundamentally changes politics. But I think it’s the same as in the US. They have the no king protests but they change not much about what the Trump government does. There are unmarked agents taking people away and it is accepted. Europeans are not fundamentally different.

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      Yes, like the Chinese surplus.

      You do realise that the amount of US treasuries held by the Chinese far surpass those held by Germany? So if you’d really follow your theory, wouldn’t you have to blame China for bolstering the US military instead?

      It is, but why should it be different?

      Because observing individual examples doesn’t allow for deducing that it applies to all.

      If some linux servers are enough, that would be nice.

      It is a start. Why don’t you allow it to develop?

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        wouldn’t you have to blame China for bolstering the US military instead?

        Yes, but that was not the point. Germany has done it for decades, so having to live with tariffs and LNG imports doesn’t change much.

        Because observing individual examples doesn’t allow for deducing that it applies to all.

        Right in theory but not in practice.

        Why don’t you allow it to develop?

        I do. Let’s hope it is as successful as the various emancipation movements.

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          Yes, but that was not the point.

          :D I can imagine! Let’s face it: if that really was a kind of super hack for the US to get their dominating military, their biggest rival wouldn’t be one of the biggest partakers in it since their adoption of market economy in the 80s.

          Right in theory but not in practice.

          Absolutely right in practice. Giving in to a simplified world view based on individual events is always a dumb idea. Be it that individual criminal offences by foreigners don’t constitute a general criminality of foreigners or, like in this case, assuming that the US effectively controls our politics.

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            their biggest rival wouldn’t be one of the biggest partakers

            It has worked out for them, hasn’t it? It’s all about capturing the production processes. The US now has to contain them to come out ahead.

            based on individual events

            The individual part is important. Foreigners are individuals, US foreign policy isn’t.

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              It has worked out for them, hasn’t it?

              How? According to your theory, they have been heavily bolstering the US military for decades. At least that’s what you want to blame Germany with, but somehow for China the same would be a win?

              US foreign policy isn’t.

              So you want to extrapolate that because Trump is trying to save Milei with money, the US is effectively controlling us all?

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                blame Germany

                Why blame? It also was a partial win for Germany, but we deliberately forfeited on building the fourth reich so we don’t have that concentration of power.

                want to extrapolate

                Why do you want Europe to be independend if there is no control?

                Milei is just the most recent incident that is out in the open.

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                    You argue that the EU has to be strong to avoid being influenced by the US. At the same time you doubt that the EU is influenced by the US.