• plyth@feddit.org
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    What kind of 5d chess move is that?

    Exactly

    diluting the view with a constant noise

    It’s a global game. It’s not noise but sidequests with serious consequences. If the US take over Congo to control essential minerals that the EU needs then that’s not noise.

    This is not relevant here when it comes to how Europe should act towards bullies

    It is. If the US control the governing parties and they can monitor any change in the mood of the population, do you think there will ever be a successful movement for European independence?

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      Exactly

      Did you come up with this idea?

      It’s not noise but sidequests with serious consequences.

      A side quest is exactly that: a quest besides the main one. If you just keep doing these and stall with the main one, you won’t have much success. When Europe has progressed in their main quest, they can waste all the time they want in these side ones.

      It is.

      …you say, only to then draw up another wild if-assumption from the endless box of conspiracy theories. Should you really think the US control the governing parties, we’ll have difficulties finding a common basis.

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        Did you come up with this idea?

        No, as I said, that’s how it was justified.

        A side quest is exactly that: a quest besides the main one.

        Which becomes the main one if it is an essential part for something important.

        Without secured resources there won’t be an independent EU.

        Should you really think the US control the governing parties

        Directly, no. But they will consult the parties about which candidate they will support.

        You must know the argument that the Democrats would have won with Bernie Sanders.

        Things like that are enough to maintain friendly relations.

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          No, as I said, that’s how it was justified.

          Yea no, not so fast. Where did you get that argument from?

          Without secured resources there won’t be an independent EU.

          Who said otherwise? If you want Europe to compete with countries such as the US when it comes to projecting power globally, hawkish approach but be my guest!

          But they will consult the parties about which candidate they will support.

          And they then comply with that? Are you actually serious?

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            Where did you get that argument from?

            I don’t know. I thought that it is common knowledge among those who read about economics.

            If you want something easier to find, look for the Chinese trade surplus and that they hold back Dollars to keep the Yuan low to facilitate exports.

            And they then comply with that? Are you actually serious?

            What else would politicians do but those negotiations about power and influence? There is an article about the woman who selected the Shah for Iran. Why should European countries be treated differently if there is leverage?

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              thought that it is common knowledge among those who read about economics.

              It’s not. Sounds more like an argument straight out of some unhinged Telegram group, no offense.

              What else would politicians do

              You mean what else would politicians do than letting themselves being dictated by the US which one is allowed to run their country? I’d say: an awful lot of things.

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                It’s not.

                Have you heard about China devaluing the Yuan?

                being dictated

                Directly, no.

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                  Have you heard about China devaluing the Yuan?

                  Focus please. You said, concerning your 5d chess move of America having a trade surplus with Germany which somehow allows them to put money into the military, that you thought it was common knowledge among those who read about economics. To which I answered that it is not.

                  Directly, no.

                  Even to claim ‘indirectly dictated’ smells like dodgy Telegram again.

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                    To which I answered that it is not.

                    Which I think means that you don’t believe that it is true. So to understand what happened, it would help if you understand what is happening with China, because it is fundamentally the same.

                    Even to claim ‘indirectly dictated’ smells like dodgy Telegram again.

                    How does the $40 billion credit to Argentina smell to you?