Russia being messed up doesn’t contradict the meme at all. People in the imperial core can be happy, every time comrades in Russia (or Ukraine) have a success against their government and their oligarchy. But the best thing every anti-imperialist can do, is fight the imperialists they can actually fight: the ones in their own country. If you’re in a NATO country, that means your priority should be to fight NATO and the US oligarchs who benefit from it’s constant wars all over the world. If workers on both sides just continue to fall for the propaganda, they’ll never stop killing each other.
I’m not just randomly claiming, that this strategy is what works best. Have you heard of Lenins revolutionary defeatism? It’s the method, that made the revolution possible.
Have you heard of Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht? They were both killed for their anti-war stance and their commitment against national-chauvinism. Liebknechts famous line was: “the main enemy stands at home”, by which he meant the national oligarchs and imperialists profiting from the war.
-Theres no way you can define the word dictatorship
-You seem to think that someone on the internet who doesn’t believe that Enemy Country is literally Mordor is part of “the problem” (what problem? The problem of other countries existing in a way that displeases you?)
Overall I give it a 2/10, deeply stupid and infantile, try throwing in a Star Wars reference next.
Bro they have literally had the same man in power for the last 25 years. The elections are far too one sided to be legitimate. They enforce heavy military propoganda. They have wealthy oligarchs while they working class is barely scraping by. And they have been trying to forcefully take land from other countries for years at the expense of citizens of both sides. Please explain how everything I said isn’t true, or would you rather just hurl empty insults again instead and make yourself look even more ridiculous
You realize these things are true in Ukraine, in some cases more than even in Russia? And Ukraine was doing ethnic cleansing in the civil war for 8 years before Russia invaded, too, so if you want to apply this childish “I support the enemies of countries that do evil things” view instead of materialism, you could just as easily land on the conclusion that supporting Russia against fascist (vibes based definition) Ukraine is correct.
If you did a materialist analysis and try to figure out what the forces at play are, which classes stand to gain from different outcomes, and why the ruling class interest of Western imperialist states are aligned the way they are, you’d probably arrive at a much better conclusion though.
The elections are far too one sided to be legitimate
According to some random on the internet? Then what does that say about, for example, Ukraine, where opposition parties have been openly banned and elections have been canceled altogether? What possible reason is there to support such a government?
They enforce heavy military propoganda
What does it mean to “enforce heavy military propoganda”? You mean like we have at NFL games, only scary and foreign? Literally what do the thought-terminating cliches you’re using even mean, and how do they not apply to us?
They have wealthy oligarchs while they working class is barely scraping by
So like…they’re a capitalist country, but scaaary and foreign?
And they have been trying to forcefully take land from other countries for years at the expense of citizens of both sides
Other country, singular, because that’s how warfare works. I’m not sure if you realize that’s how warfare works, but it is. It’s weird of you to just say countries plural as if you’re not expecting anyone to fact check you. In fact, that’s kind of how you guys talk about any country the US tells you to hate in general: the strongest possible existential condemnation in the vaguest and most possible terms.
Please explain how everything I said isn’t true, or would you rather just hurl empty insults again instead and make yourself look even more ridiculous
Sorry, I don’t entertain the vague fever dreams of de facto nazi supporters who hold childlike beliefs about good and evil that they selectively apply to entire countries. Start talking in concrete terms if you want to be taken seriously, or would you rather just lean on empty cable news-ass buzzwords again and make yourself look even more like a hysterical dorkass?
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Hollywood isn’t real life.
Why are you convinced that your moral enemies are also your political enemies?
And why is it fascist?
Russia being messed up doesn’t contradict the meme at all. People in the imperial core can be happy, every time comrades in Russia (or Ukraine) have a success against their government and their oligarchy. But the best thing every anti-imperialist can do, is fight the imperialists they can actually fight: the ones in their own country. If you’re in a NATO country, that means your priority should be to fight NATO and the US oligarchs who benefit from it’s constant wars all over the world. If workers on both sides just continue to fall for the propaganda, they’ll never stop killing each other.
I’m not just randomly claiming, that this strategy is what works best. Have you heard of Lenins revolutionary defeatism? It’s the method, that made the revolution possible.
Have you heard of Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht? They were both killed for their anti-war stance and their commitment against national-chauvinism. Liebknechts famous line was: “the main enemy stands at home”, by which he meant the national oligarchs and imperialists profiting from the war.
So many reasons this is funny
-You apparently believe in evil, like a child
-You don’t know what fascism is
-Theres no way you can define the word dictatorship
-You seem to think that someone on the internet who doesn’t believe that Enemy Country is literally Mordor is part of “the problem” (what problem? The problem of other countries existing in a way that displeases you?)
Overall I give it a 2/10, deeply stupid and infantile, try throwing in a Star Wars reference next.
Bro they have literally had the same man in power for the last 25 years. The elections are far too one sided to be legitimate. They enforce heavy military propoganda. They have wealthy oligarchs while they working class is barely scraping by. And they have been trying to forcefully take land from other countries for years at the expense of citizens of both sides. Please explain how everything I said isn’t true, or would you rather just hurl empty insults again instead and make yourself look even more ridiculous
You realize these things are true in Ukraine, in some cases more than even in Russia? And Ukraine was doing ethnic cleansing in the civil war for 8 years before Russia invaded, too, so if you want to apply this childish “I support the enemies of countries that do evil things” view instead of materialism, you could just as easily land on the conclusion that supporting Russia against fascist (vibes based definition) Ukraine is correct.
If you did a materialist analysis and try to figure out what the forces at play are, which classes stand to gain from different outcomes, and why the ruling class interest of Western imperialist states are aligned the way they are, you’d probably arrive at a much better conclusion though.
Wrong, they have a federal government system that you naively think is “one guy runs everything” like a marvel movie: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Government_of_Russia
According to some random on the internet? Then what does that say about, for example, Ukraine, where opposition parties have been openly banned and elections have been canceled altogether? What possible reason is there to support such a government?
What does it mean to “enforce heavy military propoganda”? You mean like we have at NFL games, only scary and foreign? Literally what do the thought-terminating cliches you’re using even mean, and how do they not apply to us?
So like…they’re a capitalist country, but scaaary and foreign?
Other country, singular, because that’s how warfare works. I’m not sure if you realize that’s how warfare works, but it is. It’s weird of you to just say countries plural as if you’re not expecting anyone to fact check you. In fact, that’s kind of how you guys talk about any country the US tells you to hate in general: the strongest possible existential condemnation in the vaguest and most
possible terms.
Sorry, I don’t entertain the vague fever dreams of de facto nazi supporters who hold childlike beliefs about good and evil that they selectively apply to entire countries. Start talking in concrete terms if you want to be taken seriously, or would you rather just lean on empty cable news-ass buzzwords again and make yourself look even more like a hysterical dorkass?