Sorry, then what are you saying? You accused us of supporting fascism, I asked you what fascism we support, and you’re just freespinning now. You can check my profile if you think I’m a bot.
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You said that we support fascism, then you’re saying that there’s mass starvation for the elites and that’s what I assume you mean by fascism. If that’s not what you meant, then what is it that we support that you think is fascism?
That’s not what fascism is. Are you suggesting that fascism is when some people are well fed and others aren’t?
Sure, no whataboutism then: Why do you think NK is fascist in a vacuum? Why is anything perceptible if all things, at their purest forms, are isolated atomic objects that have no relation to the rest of the world?
can you show us where the support for fascism is?
And if you’re just going to say that the DPRK is fascist, what do you consider to be more fascist: an invasion and brutal war against a tiny country that kills 20% of its population, makes the remaining population live underground, relentlessly and indiscriminately bombs the country until there are no targets left; or the country that survives that war and refuses to play by the rules of the colonizers, imperialists, and occupiers who want them to be a capitalist country like the occupied south?
8·8 days agoYou’re hastily jumping to the conclusion that the new thing is the same as the old thing just because it has some similarities.
Your example of religious schisms gives the game away, really, because every major religious schism I can think of did bring significant qualitative changes in the social organization of the societies that underwent them. For example, the ideological and philosophical basis of settlement in the United States was founded on the new sects of Protestantism that followed Calvinist influences. Their attitudes toward labor, property, the question of slavery, and many other political matters was distinct from the results you’d expect out of Catholic settlers, or any other religion. And that’s a difference in religion which, from a materialist perspective, is not even the primary thing that makes history move, but part of the ideological superstructure that serves to maintain the economic relations in a given society.
In the case of China: no, the “authoritarian uniparty” is not simply the new owning class. That’s not how the party works and it’s also not how class works. In fact, the statement “functionally you don’t have a say” is probably the most incorrect statement you can make about SWCC, because it’s a very practical system that, while it made a lot of compromises for the sake of reforms and opening up, it has always listened to input from the people. The way the entire CPC is structured is designed for that purpose and it gives its members ample room to have a say over the way things are run.
To think that the “authoritarian uniparty” was truly some kind of new owning class, you’d have to first explain how a political party that has its origins (and present support) in the peasantry and workers, comes to become the opposite thing entirely, a group that controls capital for the sake of producing more capital. That isn’t even a plausible statement to make of the ruling parties in Western imperialist countries: their ruling parties are organs of their respective ruling classes, international imperialist capitalists who use their states to increase their profits.
Is Xi Jinping answering to Chinese billionaires, structuring policy to serve their interests? And if he is, why do the billionaires allow the CPC to make each 5 year plan and the policies chosen to implement them based on the input from millions of party members, instead of receiving a policy plan from a billionaire operated think tank like they do in the West? Is it really all a big conspiracy?
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Lol @ not identifying with China for their treatment of ethnic minorities and authoritarianism, but identifying with the KMT despite their displacement of indigenous people and the white terror.
3·12 days agolol would you prefer for us to lie and say all the countries of the world are horrible, cynicism is the only consistent ideology, and we’re all doomed so nothing matters?
100 upvotes, 10 replies might mean I pissed someone off
But if it was 10 upvotes or 100 replies I’m taking the 100 replies, I love drama.
– General Hans Speidel, who participated in the invasions of Poland, France, and the Soviet Union, played a key role in German rearmament and integration into NATO, and in 1957 became Commander-in-Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe.
– Sturmführer Dr. Eberhard Taubert worked with Goebbels in the Nazi Ministry of Propaganda where he was responsible for designing the yellow badge for Jews. After the war, he eventually became an adviser to ex-Nazi Franz Josef Strauss, German Minister of Defence from 1956-62, and was assigned by Strauss to NATO’s “Psychological Warfare Department” which spewed anti-communist propaganda just as Goebbels’ ministry had during the war.
– Nazi Admiral and U-Boat commander Friedrich Guggenberger, whose U-boat sank 17 allied ships, later served as Deputy Chief of Staff in the NATO command Armed Forces North (AFNORTH) 1968-72.
– Johannes Steinhoff, a Luftwaffe fighter pilot, was made Chairman of the NATO Military Committee 1971-74, holding other NATO positions prior to that.
– Johann von Kielmansegg, General Staff officer to the High Command of the Wehrmacht, 1942-44, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1967-68.
– Ernst Ferber, a major in the Wehrmacht, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1973-75.
– Karl Schnell, First General Staff officer of the LXXVI Panzer Corps, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1975-77.
– Franz Joseph Schulze, Chief of the Third Battery of the Flak Storm Regiment 241, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1977-79.
– Ferdinand von Senger und Etterline, Lieutenant of the 24th Panzer Division of the German Sixth Army, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1979-83.
source: https://cpcml.ca/itn220328-tmld-art4/ (thank you communist party of canada…) (plagiarized this comment from @abc@hexbear.net)
You wanna elaborate on that, or are we supposed to feel convinced when you simply… restate the thing the meme is making fun of, but in an even more cliche sentence?
Do you think there’s people out there joining the PSL or some other communist party who are gonna hear this 7th grade tier criticism and change their minds, or do you say it just for your own comfort?
Of all creatures I’ve met, you are the kindest.
I don’t go so far as to think that the only good Indian is the dead Indian, but I believe nine out of every ten are, and I shouldn’t like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth. The most vicious cowboy has more moral principle than the average Indian. Take three hundred low families of New York and New Jersey, support them, for fifty years, in vicious idleness, and you will have some idea of what the Indians are. Reckless, revengeful, fiendishly cruel.
Theodore Roosevelt
They’re writing a thesis about treating damage to lungs from smoking. They’re actually really good at this.
Wait, you were raised Catholic and were taught to interpret the Bible literally? That’s weird, and doesn’t match my experience. Did you know one of the scientists who theorized the Big Bang Theory, Georges Lemaitre, was a Catholic priest?
What do you think about non-historical interpretations of the Bible, out of curiosity?
That’s something you can only say if you really stretch the idea of the Gospel. How much of the world only received the Gospel through colonization and enslavement? How much of the world only hears the Gospel today as preached by pastors and priests that are using the Gospel to manipulate the people in their pulpits into handing over cash, if not to be manipulated into even worse things?
Do you really think that a huge number of people that haven’t spent years of their lives devoted to studying theology and Scripture could be said to understand the truth behind it, as opposed to all the ways in which it’s been twisted to serve oppressors?
How many were baptized or otherwise raised in Christian churches that preached nothing but hate and prosperity gospel?
At what point did you turn on CNN and say to yourself…
You’re on a website with a huge percentage of communists and anarchists. What makes you think that the people here use CNN as their moral compass?
Also, what makes you think the users of this website were ever Christian to begin with?
You’re mixing up a lot of different concepts.
“NK is not a free country” is a meaningless sentence. What does a free country look like? Is it a country where people may achieve their highest level ambitions regardless of who they’re born to, their identity, or any immutable characteristic? Because it isn’t that, and that doesn’t exist anywhere. Is it a country where the state ?mostly stays out of people’s lives and people are generally free to do what they wanna do as long as they aren’t destabilizing things? I believe it actually is, and I know you don’t think any serious person could think that way, but I’d invite you to show me a source that offers compelling evidence that the above is not the case and isn’t from the US State Department or Radio Free Asia.
Nobody in NK is being killed or prosecuted just for their beliefs. They don’t have mind readers. I also guarantee they aren’t throwing people in jail for saying bad things to each other. Think about how ridiculous this would be to enforce, if you could claim someone you don’t like told you, in private, that they disliked the government you could get them arrested. That’s absurd.
They don’t have free speech, though, because they’re… currently still officially at war and effectively under siege by the most militarized country on earth, and its vassal state that’s armed to the teeth. If you lived in NK, would you feel comfortable with lax free speech laws and all the other “freedoms” that would allow for the enemy to more effectively destabilize and fracture the country? Because that’s been a standard imperialist tactic since the coup against Arbenz in Guatemala about a century ago.
Moreover, if I had to draw an easy conclusion from this: you’re probably a westerner, and you might even be from the US or another country that supported the imperialist and genocidal invasion of Korea. If you can understand why it would be really stupid for an Israeli, or even an Israeli leftist, to tell Palestinians what they are and aren’t allowed to do to resist Israeli aggression, what’s so hard to understand about the idea westerners whose governments are still laying siege to the DPRK being the last people who should be criticizing it? Do you think the North Korean people are just mindless drones waiting for their western saviors, who need the western left to pressure their governments to sanction and blockade the DPRK even more, to free them from the “Kim dynasty”?