• atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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    23 hours ago

    They try this every 5 years or so. Microsoft gives them some short term discounts and they come running back back.

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      They didn’t just give them a discount, and it was only a very small part of Europe you are talking about. It was Munich, and MS also moved a lot of workplaces to the city, to bribe it…

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      22 hours ago

      It’s different this time around.

      The previous attempts were about freeing themselves from an abusive unprincipled data-hungry big data monopoly,

      This attempt is about freeing themselves from an abusive unprincipled data-hungry big data monopoly operating in a fascist country and in cahoots with the regime.

      I reckon it’s serious this time.

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        Hell, I’m in Silicon Valley here in California, and some of my friends are also jumping off the proprietary ship because those large firms are willing to work hand in hand with federal agencies.

        If you’ve read the NSA document disclosures by Edward Snowden, it’s apparent that there is an open door for data requests. The current administration isn’t a huge fan of California’s diversity, so we might as minimize our chances of being targetted…

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        20 hours ago

        People are serious, I’ve never seen so many new users in the Linux groups I’m in

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          That might not be so much down to how serious people are but rather just how good Linux has gotten lately (especially for games). Although I do think people are more serious now.

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          Life long windows user. I switched to Arch a few months ago and I’m not looking back. Will only be using windows in a sandboxed VM if absolutely necessary. Which, I haven’t needed to yet.

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            Life long windows user. I switched to Arch

            Fuck. That’s like going straight from English breakfast tea to hash oil.

            I’ve been using Linux almost exclusively both in my personal and professional life for a decade and a half. I only installed Arch a month or two ago.

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              Installing Arch might be a hassle, I tried it once and couldn’t figure it out so a kept on using Ubuntu and its derivatives. But when I got a Steam Deck I found Steam OS to be easy and the Arch documentation to be thorough and useful.

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        19 hours ago

        Other countries like that and Europe deals with are: Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Russia and of course, China.

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          [Some*] Europeans just can’t get over their Arab and Muslim-hate despite neither Qatar nor Saudi Arabia posing any threat to Europe and actually being good trading partners. No tariffs, no restrictions, no unfair competition. They adopt many European standards and are a huge market for European goods and services. Yet still the hate is constantly being peddled.

          * hopefully a minority but the hate seems to be universal regardless of the political leaning.

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            Are they democracies? No. Do they respect human rights? Also no.

            I don’t care as much about them as I care about pointing out the hypocrisy of my people. I have a thing against islam but that has nothing to do with this conversation.

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          The digital dependence on the US is much like the energy dependence on Russia.

          Europe is ditching Russian energy. They may ditch US tech.

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            I don’t know about the whole Europe but Spain is buying more energy from Russia than before the war and sanctions.

            Don’t get me wrong, I hope that would be the case but Europe is also Corporativist.

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              Is it more? I know Spain is still buying some LNG from Russia, but i would have thought the amount went down, not up.

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                The European Union regulates the market so much it’s hard to call it capitalism, the biggest european companies are basically EU projects like Airbus (every government funds it) or too big too fail like Siemens and/or they would use: “strategic industry” and be done with it.

                Edit oh and I almost forgot it, or they are like Inditex, basically not European it’s just an European getting rich while exploiting poor people all around the world, but I think this is actually capitalism and that guy isn’t exactly appreciated by ruling dictator, I mean party, in Spain.

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          While the former seems to be the obvious trend and Europe has historically leaned towards it. I don’t see how one results in the other. Whether they stick with Microsoft or not is more economical than political.

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          People are downvoting you, but they’re too scared to actually argue against it. I’m obviously hoping this isn’t the case, but you’d be sticking your head in the sand if you said there was no chance of it happening.

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            We’re already seeing a massive surge of the far right in Europe. Giant media blitzes on social media such as Twitter shoving far right content in their faces.

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      I wouldn’t be so sure this time around.

      The world is a big uncertainly and the force in Europe for digital sovereignty is something I never seen before.

      The initiative to protect Europes boarders and data information is justified.