TBF I’m happy with an optical drive being a peripheral these days, I probably need mine about twice an average year currently
Agree on everything else though. I miss my 17" from ages ago pretty much because it had a numpad
As someone who has used the peripheral ones, there is a tradeoff compared to built-in: they break more frequently. There’s just not enough “armor” keeping the internals safe from even just being squished a little too hard in a backpack
Yeah who knows how old this is. A builtin DVD/CD/bluray player? Tweet has date cut off.
But also yeah, I agree with the rest. I tried with the small form factor laptops for a while but in the end it’s neither here nor there: I’m not taking it with me everywhere (I don’t work in tech), even if it’s small. And the times I do take it with me the size does not matter much - as long as it still fits in my backpack I guess.
or that, you know a lithium ion ups would make that work really well
You have to use 90’s tech to keep it on theme, so it would have to be NiCad or lead acid
ouch, we’re stuck with lead acid then, nicad lacks energy density
All I want is a laptop is 6-8 hours battery life that’s tiny so it’s very portable.
If I want what’s described here I’ll just use a desktop.
If its under like 25lbs, its probably still lighter than my backpack in high school was some days without any laptops and that was still very portable.
Also, desktop typically don’t last long unplugged.
If I have a 25 pound laptop with 2-3 bad dragons all the sudden I’m carrying about 50 lbs.
Maybe build the laptop split across the bad dragons and then it’ll be plug and play.
I’m afraid to ask… but is the “bad dragon” you’re referring to the website that sells gigantic alien dildos?
No they are the gigantic alien and monster and fantasy creature dildos.
Thank you for your response, SatansMaggotyCumFart
Idk, pretty standard for the trades no? I’ve seen gigantic dildos everywhere from tech backpacks to snap-on roll cabs.
Don’t be afraid of a good time!
Desktop computers aren’t portable. They aren’t meant to be. Whatever this person is designing isn’t very portable, either. If it isn’t convenient to use on an airplane tray table, I’m not interested.
Does thickness/weight matter a lot for that or just the footprint?
For me, if I can bring it with me when visiting family, it’s portable. If all of these were part of the laptop, then I could skip bringing the second monitor and the charger sometimes. So it would be more portable imo.
Thickness matters because the tray table and seat back of the seat in front of you are usually at an acute angle. To get a good viewing angle the screen needs to be open to an obtuse angle. So the top edge of the laptop lid and the seat back will often be in contact to make a comfortable viewing angle, especially if the person in front of you reclines their seat. The thicker the laptop is, the higher the hinge sits. The higher the hinge, the higher the top edge of the lid. The higher that is, the more of an issue this becomes.
Imagine that purple is the tray and seat back, and green is the laptop.
You have options - if the screen is smaller, it’ll be less likely to hit. If you slide the laptop out, it gives you more space. That cramps the wrists if you’re typing, though, and eventually it’ll hit you. Making the laptop thinner gives you more options.
Get one that folds backwards!
My thinkpad (480, 490?) is super thin and keeps the lights on for like 8-10 hours.
Screen could be better ofc, can’t have everything I guess.
I recently upgraded my t440p’s display from the stock TN display to an ips display (N140HCG-GQ2, should also work on your laptop but finding a genuine is a bit dificult) and it made a massive difference, so that’s always an option if you feel like it.
Wow, thanks for the tip!
How’s the power consumption?
I’ve not noticed a difference to the battery life in reality but in theory the panel should use a watt less at max brightness (4.1W with the stock N140FGE-EA2 vs 3.1W max on the new one), but also has almost double the brightness so does not need to be ran as high. The main difference is with the colours, the new panel covers 71% of the NTSC colourspace where the other only covers 47%. Plus IPS displays just have much better viewing angles so doesn’t need to be viewed straight on.
Excellent!
It’s not for everyone and certainly some applications aren’t available, but I’ve been surprised how well a tablet can substitute for a laptop. Plus I use GrapheneOS on a pixel tablet so it’s arguably more secure than your average linux laptop.
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Too 👏 much 👏 clapping
…i always read those as slaps back-and-forth across the face for emphasis…
Too much clapping
Doesn’t the reduced thickness also contribute to higher Temps and the jet engine fans?
If it was a bit thicker, some of the empty space could be used to push air through and cool the components better.
But if it were like that, how would it die after two years of updates, necessitating you to buy a new one, huh?
Checkmate poors!
Not really.
My ThinkPad X1 Carbon is around 2.5 lb. So thin that sometimes I forget it’s in my backpack.
Battery life is at least 5 hours when working but when I’m just reading and doing light things can be way more. (With Linux).
I barely notice the fan even when transcoding and CPU at peak.
At my work, we have some ruggedized Dells that are certified for extreme and/or explosive environments that you definitely wouldn’t want to get hit with. I have to lug one in my carry on from time to time, I think they’re 8-11ish pounds depending on options. Good battery life, pricey as hell though.
I watched someone get fully knocked out when a milspec dell slid off a roof onto them - those things are no joke.
The same can be said for phones, first they got rid of removable batteries, then the headphone jack and now they’re after the sim slot too.
Remember SD card slots in phones?
That can’t stop me from using a USB splitter and connect to a portable SSD glued onto the back of my phone.
How the hell is Lee Jae-yong¹ gonna stop me from doing that?
¹CEO of Samsung
Hilariously, my main phone for several years now has been what was intended to be a burner phone.
Bought it at a gas station, was able to unlock it…
Its is garbage in terms of performance at anything beyond like, one tab in a web browser… but, it works as a phone, you can pop the back of the case off.
Removable battery.
Oh and it has a headphone jack too.
So I have a semi decent pair of old school headphones and hey wow, the connecting cord itself works as an FM radio antenna.
And an sd slot, though its only accessible via taking the back shell off.
So yep this one is staying as the backup/emergency/burner, if I ever even do get a ‘new’ one.
When they tell me they removed several conveniences to save a quarter pound I’m like, “dog I can deadlift 400 pounds do you think I’ll even feel the difference in my bag?” Gimme my ports back you assholes.
Why the hell didn’t they hire you on as a consultant for the laptop design team? Incredible lost opportunity, literally makes zero sense.
Addendum: no webcam or microphone. Firm keys. A bios that doesn’t make choices for us and lets you actually use the damn thing.
So you’re saying you want a completely AI-powered UI and no mouse? Got it fam. Cutting edge tech comin’ your way.
How have I ever wronged you stranger? Why does one voluntary collect enemies like this? I beg of you to stop in the name of world peace.
No webcam is understandable but in the grand scheme of things mics don’t cost that much. No harm in having them to make calls
It’s not so much a cost thing for me as rather I don’t want onboard mics/cams in general. The quality is always shit and settings default over there when I never use those anyway.
Come to think of it. As little superfluous bs in general.
Fair, I don’t have headphones and the inbuilt ones nowadays have good enough quality to take calls
Laptops already reached the maximum limit of a battery you can take on an airplane. 100 to 160 Wh batteries need airline approval before you can bring it onto the airplane and anything about 160Wh is forbidden. So yeah larger batteries are not gonna happen, until solid state batteries become the norm.
So 99wh swappable is the sweet spot?
Or hear me out, sell one with a removable battery so I shove a fuck off big battery in that sonovabitch. I ain’t getting on a plane so let me jam a batter that could power the electrical system in my 2001 Tacoma for a week.
Alright then give me a laptop with an 50 array of 99 watt batteries.
solid state batteries
Also known as, the essential oils and healing crystals of the battery industry.
I think I see a “company” announce at least once a year they cracked solid state. Cue “Can I see it?” - “No.” meme.
what I want is a mini pc, a battery pack and a docking ‘console’ in shape of laptop with a DP screen, ports, keyboard and touchpad. I can mix and match these according to my need, like 2 battery packs.
if I know somewhere power, display and keyboard will be available I can simply take the mini pc only.
You know you can do that with most android phones, no? All you need is one of those USB C hubs with HDMI output, and with RJ45 if you want the whole hog.
Yet another reason users want a Linux phone.
OMG my xiaomy only has some proprietary bs to make it into a “phone computer”, and I already decided the next is going to be a linux phone, this is going to be so fun!
Ha ha just a keyboard a mouse and a screen 😁 and im freeeee! And a charge plug. And a second battery, but that’s okay.
https://www.techeblog.com/cyberdeck-steam-deck-portable-briefcase-game-console/
Doesn’t hit all your requirements, but its closer than it is far away.
General shape of a laptop.
Does have ports, keyboard, and touchpad.
Not a DP screen, doesn’t have swappable internal battery packs but you could… slap kinda pouches or straps to the housing, and carry some external batteries or a mouse in em, plug em into whatever ‘dock’ / usb hub this thing is using.
I agree with all of this. And seriously, bring back an actual built in ethernet port. Even the best USB adapters are terrible.
For the battery issue, how much of that is just because they want to stay under the 100Wh mark for shipping in the US?
https://www.winmate.com/en/Product/L140TG-3
Also, apparently dual hot-swappable battery laptops have existed…
This is definitely the issue for batteries. Anyone who flies can’t have a battery larger than 100Wh.
Also, apparently dual hot-swappable battery laptops have existed…
Indeed, I still hold on to my trusty ThinkPad T420 for that reason (and the excellent Linux support). Two batteries can be used at the same time, one of them hot-swappable.
The T420 has dual batteries? Weird, my T430s (not recommended btw, but I got it for free) doesn’t have those. My x250 has dual batteries though.
Not all variants, and maybe not in all markets. I will try to remember to get the SKU on it and post here.
OK. I think the ‘s’ denotes a budget device.
Even without the ‘s’ suffix the 420 model came in a range of configurations available.
No I meant the T430s:
- https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T430s - no mention of batteries.
- https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T430 - yes mention of various batteries
Yeah I was gonna say, there has to be some ThinkPad variant that… comes pretty close to hitting these requirements.
I never understood why that didn’t take off more, like even when you "could* swap out a phone battery for example (miss you old xiaomi 2 & 5 !) it wasn’t hot swappable, even a condensator+some quick deep sleep could probably let you do it if you’re fast smh.
Probably because people don’t use their laptops when they’re mobile as much as you’d think. Spending an additional 100-150€ on a second battery will seem expensive, even when the laptop just cost 1-2k€.
In my dream world you’d pop in and out 18650 batteries in slots on the backside ☺️ a proprietary system would probably be cost prohibitive. For a mobile they had lots of similar flat batteries, and cheap too, but that was then I guess.
My Compaq Armada 1500c has dual removable batteries and a removable floppy drive. The batteries can be lithium or NiMH.
The 800x600 active matrix LCD was a bit of a drawback as the years went by. Most of the websites I made back then are a bit small today.
Eh, heavy laptops are a pain
Speaking as someone who used an ASUS ROG laptop for Uni
You don’t want a heavy laptop
Speaking as somebody who uses a W530 with a 9 cell battery, it’s really not that bad
ASUS ROG laptops weigh 9-10lbs
Ok I’m at 6 pounds but I really don’t think 10 is bad. I used to have to carry probably around 20 pounds of books to school and it wasn’t that bad. Backpacks exist for a reason
Everything except the disc reader and writer. Laptops are mobile, I can carry a usb drive if I need extra space, not lug around a bunch of discs.
