We present cumulative data and statistics collected since the launch of the fully-fledged version of the EIC Accelerator in June 2021.
We present cumulative data and statistics collected since the launch of the fully-fledged version of the EIC Accelerator in June 2021.
What are you talking about, an agenda? I presented the link and the graph and gave the post a title as to what stood out the most to me.
I didn’t include the UK because I thought that the UK had still been in the EU in 2021 (I misremembered that Brexit was November 2021 and not 2020) - Regardless, UK is in Europe. Israel is not, and never has been to my knowledge.
So?
The data you’ve shown here is about the EIC (European Innovation Council), which is funded by Horizon Europe, in which, despite its name, also non-European countries can be (associated) members of. This includes Israel, but also Turkey, Canada or Tunisia, i.a.. Those members obviously also have to pay into it.
As an european I don’t want my name associated with genocidal regime, especially when those regime develop surveillance technologies and drones that one day might be used on civilians population here.
…and that’s fine.
But that’s something different than to try to make it appear as though Israel is somehow unjustifiably being fed “European money” here.
Of course it’s unjustifiable, what the fuck. They’re bombing civilians. Are you justifying any association with a genocidal regime?
I replied to this comment:
So unjustifiable in terms of “look, there is this non-European country that gets money from this European fund.”. That’s simply not the case, as this “European fund” is also funded by non-European countries (for exampe Israel).
If you want all Israeli science projects, startups and companies currently partaking in the EIC to be expelled due to the actions of the Israeli government, that’s totally fine by me. But as said, this can and should be done in a direct and honest approach instead of creating the scandalising and false sentiment that a non-European country is somehow unjustifiably being fed European money here.
Honestly, I’d rather be accused of inaccuracy than being complicit with a genocide.
@KIKILOVE@piefed.social
This is - among others - what is understood by propaganda and what I’d call an agenda: Repeat your own single argument, not matter what others have commented.
[Edit typo.]
Is your argument that you guys don’t fund genocide? You know repeating it doesn’t make it true.
Some of the money went to IBM Israel, who directly helped the IDF building systems like where’s daddy or lavender, who automated the genocide.
https://thegrayzone.com/2025/08/30/eu-funding-israeli-military-tech/
Fine. But if you don’t even want to bother to argue accurately, why should anyone care about your contributions?
A lot of the current problems in the world stem from people no longer wanting to take an arduous look at the whole picture and instead jump to quick conclusions. I don’t think thats something we also should do here, but you do you.
There is no point in arguing when talking about genocide. If you can’t see allowing a criminal regime to share our funding infrastructure (which albeit indirect, is still funding them) is wrong, we just won’t agree.
Nobody want to waste time arguing with pedophiles about the merits of fucking kids.
@Babalugats@feddit.uk
An important detail that others have already said is that the EU collaborates with a lot of non-EU and also with non-European countries. Here is a list of the EU’s Science and Technology Agreements with non-EU countries.
It has also been said that these countries must contribute financially for the projects they apply, another point that is important in this context that you didn’t mention.
What ‘stood out most’ to you and the way you represented it is a detail out of context that ends up in an article reflecting a completely distorted reality.
A more important detail is that Europe is collaborating with a Genocidal regime here.
It has also been said that many of the Israeli projects have ended up helping Israel to commit genocide.
What stood out most is that Israel is committing genocide and undoubtedly benefiting from these funds. As a European, I am disgusted that there is any involvement in such a way, but i am glad that it is public as it allows people to make up their own minds and see things as they are. Similarly it shows that these instances seem to have started heading the same way as sub forums with like named topics went.
@Babalugats@feddit.uk
Do you even recognize that you post the same comment no matter what the issue is? You are just repeating one and the same argument whatever one says.
Not the same comment, but the same point. I thought I would challenge you at your own game.
BTW, it’s the European invocation Fund, not the EU innovation fund.