What does Liberals complaining about how unconstitutional the actions of the ICE are have to do with my request for citations of the claim that Liberals were fighting to keep them around?
Because most liberals fell for the border control issue, and would push back against the more progressive “we didn’t cross the bkrder, the border crossed us” ethos (in favour of “systems need rules based order for nations to have money/sovereignty”…
The backside of border control is immigration and deportation.
…so the ideas of the Neo-Liberal strands of liberalism (the kinds you get in establishment dems) aren’t fully coherent, thought through, or compatible with progressive “respect the people, not the nation” ethics…
But the Neo-Liberal view of borders being a necessary evil for nations, citizenships, laws, and rights - does remain compatible with fascism… Which is what the post is pointing out.
Speaking to a crowd in Atlanta on Tuesday, Harris reiterated her support for a border bill that would increase funding for ICE detention beds, border patrol agents, asylum officers and immigration judges. It also would also reinforce new restrictions on migrants seeking asylum, alongside other reforms.
This is a casual forum, not an academic debate. If you want to start demanding sources for things, show that you’ve put some good faith effort into disproving the claim. If you just want to reply casually, that’s fine. That’s what most discussion here is. But when you start demanding a higher level of rigor, it’s only polite to demonstrate that level of rigor yourself first.
See that would have been a good response like 4 comments up the chain instead of throwing random insults and an illogical tantrum. But with that in mind, Harris was trying to represent the entire US and not Liberals with those statements, polls places Immigration as a top concern for 61% of Americans, but with a large gap between Republicans and Democrats in the poll and with the months prior sparking discussion of potential civil war over Texas’ national guard’s interference with federal immigration processing and deployment of razorwire in rivers where crossings were common.
What does Liberals complaining about how unconstitutional the actions of the ICE are have to do with my request for citations of the claim that Liberals were fighting to keep them around?
Because most liberals fell for the border control issue, and would push back against the more progressive “we didn’t cross the bkrder, the border crossed us” ethos (in favour of “systems need rules based order for nations to have money/sovereignty”…
The backside of border control is immigration and deportation.
…so the ideas of the Neo-Liberal strands of liberalism (the kinds you get in establishment dems) aren’t fully coherent, thought through, or compatible with progressive “respect the people, not the nation” ethics…
But the Neo-Liberal view of borders being a necessary evil for nations, citizenships, laws, and rights - does remain compatible with fascism… Which is what the post is pointing out.
Before demanding sources, please provide you own. What research have you done so far, so others can help you find what you’re struggling with?
You want me to backup a counterclaim, with magical evidence of subject nonexistence, to a claim with no sources? Why would I do that?
My point is, you never even bothered to google Kamala ICE policy. If you did, you would have found this article:
https://www.wvtm13.com/article/fact-checking-kamala-harris-border-security/61780748
From 2024.
This is a casual forum, not an academic debate. If you want to start demanding sources for things, show that you’ve put some good faith effort into disproving the claim. If you just want to reply casually, that’s fine. That’s what most discussion here is. But when you start demanding a higher level of rigor, it’s only polite to demonstrate that level of rigor yourself first.
See that would have been a good response like 4 comments up the chain instead of throwing random insults and an illogical tantrum. But with that in mind, Harris was trying to represent the entire US and not Liberals with those statements, polls places Immigration as a top concern for 61% of Americans, but with a large gap between Republicans and Democrats in the poll and with the months prior sparking discussion of potential civil war over Texas’ national guard’s interference with federal immigration processing and deployment of razorwire in rivers where crossings were common.
It doesn’t. That’s the whole point of satirizing the OP by simply reposting their BS whinge.