• nectar45@lemmy.zip
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    Firefox is a good example of “either you die a hero or live long enoigh to see yourself become the villian”

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      It’s also an example of a smaller company trying fight a mega Corp with infinite money, gained via unethical means.

      People are shitting on Firefox while ignoring what they are up against.

      I have no solution for their funding issue, what are they supposed to do? Charge for the browser or ads? There’s literally no other alternative and I don’t know what the solution is.

      What I do know is that once FF dies and chrome fully owns the web we are well and truly fucked.

      Honesty it might already be too late.

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        They could try asking for donations, while getting rid of the massive drains on their budget.

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        They could stop paying their CEO so much and hire a few more devs, refocus their identity on privacy and performance (their offline ai translation is actually really useful), and actually give people the sense that their donations will be well spent.

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        I could not disagree more.

        Mozilla has used the most powerful cheat code in history: infinite money for free.

        Google cannot let Mozilla go under or they would become an actual monopolist, triggering a lot of laws that would force them to diversifying/selling the browser.

        They don’t want any of that headache so they’re pumping Mozilla full of money, making sure that they can always operate as “the other browser engine”.

        The issue is that Mozilla’s management seems to be completely incapable of doing anything interesting. Instead of ensuring that Firefox is the lightest, most optimised browser on the market while also being packed full of features (or at least full-fledged add-ons, not this crap they have), they do… mostly nothing.

        Their last major update was “vertical tabs”, something that Chromium-based browsers had for around a decade.

        Their previous major update was integrating Pocket…

        Meanwhile, PWAs still barely work, add-ons are still dependent on the website being loaded instead of working on the browser level, the whole thing still feels bulky.

        Mozilla management needs to be replaced and then we might see some movement on the market.

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          You’re forgetting the fact that laws are currently only being triggered if said company slanders dear leader.

          If Google kisses ass you best believe they would completely allow them to be a monopoly and would ignore any laws being violated

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            Hinging their entire future on the bet that their country gets an easily manipulated dictator, when said dictator is 80 years old already, would be extremely short-sighted from Google.

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              Mark my words: It will be Vance, not Trump who gets to be the first King of America.

              The future is bleak.

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                I don’t know if Vance has a strong enough following. Trump is effectively worshipped by MAGAts, not sure Vance is capable of taking over like that.

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            That’s a fairly new development. And it might not last, depending on how the cheating goes next year.

            So a more risk averse company might not test the waters just yet.

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          Are we pretending that lots and lots of people aren’t incredibly horny for AI right now?

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            Actual users hate AI. Shareholders love it. It’s a bubble and the business world is trying to force it everywhere they can to create a dependency.

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              Correction: power users, such as the type on Lemmy, trend towards hating ai. That is by no means “all users” by any stretch of the term.

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                Nah, they’ve done studies and most people find it fucking annoying, worse, and don’t want to pay any extra for it.

                The whole thing is an obvious supply side economics push.

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                  It’s really annoying when it’s pushed in our faces everywhere. For getting a quick image of something you specify, or help with some boilerplate text it can be pretty neat.

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                Exactly.

                People seem to think “if I don’t do X, that means nobody does X”

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        People are shitting on Firefox while ignoring what they are up against.

        People are complaining about unnecessary bloat. That has nothing to do with them being the underdog.

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        Basically, Firefox only crushes a handful of elderly cats while everyone else crushes kittens by the shipload.

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        I have no solution for their funding issue, what are they supposed to do?

        Stop updating their browser every 5 minutes. Software that already works fine does not need continuious updates that will sooner or later subtract value.