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  • Is the leader alive or not? Alive is likely a cult, dead is usually religion.

    The next question is how isolated from friends and family or society at large are the members. More isolated is more likely to be a cult.

    Other than that, there’s not much difference.

    The usual setup is a cult is formed and then the second or third leader opens things up a bit and transitions it into just another religion… But sometimes a cult can be born from a religion as a small group breaks off to follow a charismatic leader.


  • chaogomu@lemmy.worldto196@lemmy.worldBoeing rule
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    7 months ago

    Suicidal people lie about being suicidal. And yes, they do reach out to friends and family.

    It’s also important to note here, John Barnett was not giving any sort of testimony that could harm Boeing. That’s not what the trial was over,

    No, the trial, or rather the appeal, was over Boeing’s retaliation against John Barnett for his past whistleblowing. Whistleblowing that resulted in Boeing receiving a fine.

    That particular case was done and over. John Barnett had nothing more to add.

    John Barnett sued Boeing for the wrongful termination, and other retaliation including Blackballing him (talking to other Aerospace companies to make sure they wouldn’t hire him), John lost the court case to Boeing’s high priced lawyers.

    John then appealed, and gave testimony in court in front of the appeals judge.

    I don’t know if you’ve ever been at a low point like that. Where you think you’ve hit rock bottom, and you hinge your hopes on just one thing going right, only for it to go horribly wrong.

    I’ve been to that false rock bottom, and found the depths hidden below it.

    Boeing didn’t need to hire some contract killer to pull the trigger.

    John Barnett was fighting his wrongful termination for seven years. That’s how Boeing got John to pull the trigger. They drove him to suicide, didn’t need to go any further.

    That’s what you conspiracy nuts miss. Boeing ruined a man’s life, and that’s the part that you’re ignoring. Or maybe you heard someone rightfully say that Boeing killed a man, and you thought it was meant literally.


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    No.

    What disincentivizes future whistleblowing is the prospect of never being able to work in your field ever again, because your boss, or rather his boss, talked to his counterpart at the other aerospace companies, so now no one will hire you.

    You then drown in debt, and die penniless on the street, years or decades later. Depending on your luck.

    Simply killing someone is messy. You might get caught. Ruining a man’s life to the point where he kills himself? That’s disturbingly easy.

    Again, the lawsuit was not over John Barnett’s whistleblowing. That case had concluded a few years earlier, with Boeing being found in violation of some safety standards. They got a fine and John Barnett got fired. Except Boeing didn’t “Fire” him, they forced him to retire.

    So John Barnett sues Boeing for wrongful termination, and loses. Boeing has some very expensive lawyers.

    John appeals the loss, and that’s what this court case was about. He was giving testimony about how Boeing retaliated against him. And he obviously thought that he was going to lose again.



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    I need to step in here with a major correction, John Barnett was not Whistleblowing. That’s not what the court case was about at all.

    No, the court case was for the wrongful termination, which was a result of his whistleblowing.

    This is an important distinction, because the whistleblowing was done. John Barnett had nothing more to offer authorities, because he had already turned over all the evidence he collected. That particular case was a done deal years ago.

    John Barnett then sued Boeing over his wrongful termination, and some apparent black balling. (i.e. retaliatory rumormongering to prevent John from working in aerospace).

    John lost the lawsuit. He then appealed that decision, and it wasn’t going well.

    This is the situation that led to his suicide. Boeing 100% drove a man to kill himself. But no, they didn’t fucking hire some guy to go kill John Barnett, that would be fucking stupid.







  • Interestingly, no. It’s not the same as if you ate a chunk of lead.

    Lead binds to calcium channels, and then blocks them. This makes it a bit of a neurotoxin. It also accumulates in the bones.

    Uranium on the other hand is one of the heavy metals that the body is good a filtering out of the blood. The body is not as good at expelling the uranium. It accumulates in the kidney. This can lead to kidney disease, and other related issues. And that’s just the chemical toxicity of Uranium. Add in the radioactive side of things, and you have a truly distinct form of metal poisoning.