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Pro@reddthat.com to Europe@feddit.orgEnglish · 5 days ago

Spain Is Right to Reject Increased Military Spending

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Spain Is Right to Reject Increased Military Spending

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Pro@reddthat.com to Europe@feddit.orgEnglish · 5 days ago
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Spain’s prime minister, Pedro Sánchez, has broken ranks with other NATO leaders as he refused to commit to spending 5 percent of GDP on defense. It’s a welcome move, and a rare voice of dissent from Europe’s rush to remilitarize.
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    War is a racket. 5% of GDP is an absurd number. The only thing that could come out of this is a literal arms race. Everything being dictated by principles of game-theory will destroy this planet in no time.

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      So defence isn’t worth investing in? Try telling that to eastern europe.

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        I never said that. What I am saying is that increasing military budgets in central europe by 300% is not in line with the threat level russia poses. If I owned a large quantity of military-industrial stock, I would say the opposite.

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          @SierpinskiDreieck@feddit.org

          Your statement is outright false.

          Russia’s military spending surpasses the whole of Europe’s as Putin ramps up war budget, study says

          Russian total military expenditure reached I$462bn in 2024, exceeding the total for Europe in USD at market exchange rates (MER) […] Estimable Russian spending in 2024 still represented the equivalent of 6.7% of GDP – more than double the levels in the years prior to its 2022 full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

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            yeah, those are magically adjusted for internal spending power. the raw numbers are: Europe holds a significant edge over Russia in military spending. In 2024, EU nations collectively spent $457 billion on defense compared to Russia’s $146 billion defense budget.

            https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/europe-has-the-resources-to-defend-itself-and-back-ukraine-against-russia/ and the atlantic council is not a left or peace thinktank. those are nato boys.

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              These are the relevant numbers, and there are more investigations than this one with more or less the same conclusions.

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                okay. just so i get this right.

                the eonomic block with 10 times the gdp, 3 times the (unadjusted) military spending and 3 times the population must increase their spending to 5% - which translates to 50% of russias whole gdp in order to defend themselves.

                I will - respectfully - disregard that opinion.

                e: gdp was missspelled

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        Nah, let them migrate to Ukraine. Let’s see how their views change when they experience the war themselves.

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          Well thats exactly what you’d get by not investing in defence, which is a deterrent for war.

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      And the only reason they decided to increase military spending is because dictator trump said so

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