• AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com
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    18 hours ago

    Ruthless “dictators” who saved a billion lives through the elimination of Nazism, the industrial development of the second most populous country on Earth and half the continent of Europe, and through the refusal to participate in the exploitation of the global south.

    Communists saved Europe from Nazism and you will never forgive them for it

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      5 hours ago

      … only after they were betrayed by Hitler after they allied themselves with the Nazis to invade Poland.

      And then raped and killed civilians in the countries they “liberated” by forcing millions of people from their Eastern European vasal states to die to protect the Russians.

      Then replaced Nazism with a slightly different authoritarian system that opresses it’s people and performs ethnic cleansings, but has a red and gold cost of paint.

      And then also exploited the global south, but just weren’t as good at it as the west, and filtered even more of what was exploited up the chain to the party leaders.

      And tried to make up for that lack in ability to exploit the global south by exploring Eastern Europe.

      Communist we’re allied with the nazis at the start of the war and as someone who’s great grandmother fled Poland to the UK to avoid being rapes and murdered by the red army, I will never forgive them for that.

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        5 hours ago

        only after they were betrayed by Hitler after they allied themselves with the Nazis to invade Poland.

        This is literally pro-nazi historical revisionism. I’ve made a detailed response to this load of bullshit here, if you care to learn some history about it. Please do read that in good faith and respond point by point if you actually wanna get educated on the subject.

        Regarding deportations in time of war, I agree it was a failed policy and I don’t support them generally, it happens that systems and political ideologies you support make mistakes. This was one of them. It’s still extremely minor compared to actual imperialism and genocide committed by western states in times of peace while plundering billions of people in the global south, and it’s something that happened during a period of 10 tumultuous war/preparation years and never happened again, unlike the constant imperialism of the west.

        Again proving that you don’t care about brown people and your entire “leftist” ideology is supported on CIA propaganda.

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          I took one look at you describing the “liberating” of Poland by the soviets because some of it belongs to different modern day countries and new you weren’t arguing in good faith. Invading another country and stealing their land doesn’t magically become “”“liberation”“” just because it was stolen by someone else first.

          You can use this same logic to excuse the nazi invasion of certain countries as well.

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            2 hours ago

            doesn’t magically become “”“liberation”“” just because it was stolen by someone else first

            No, it becomes liberation when majority-Ukrainian regions oppressed under the Polish nationalist state without any mode of representation, recognition of their language, and under bourgeois rule, instead obtain Ukrainian representation and institutions, recognition of its language. I assume you would know this since you seem to care so much about Ukrainians?