• AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com
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    11 hours ago

    only after they were betrayed by Hitler after they allied themselves with the Nazis to invade Poland.

    This is literally pro-nazi historical revisionism. I’ve made a detailed response to this load of bullshit here, if you care to learn some history about it. Please do read that in good faith and respond point by point if you actually wanna get educated on the subject.

    Regarding deportations in time of war, I agree it was a failed policy and I don’t support them generally, it happens that systems and political ideologies you support make mistakes. This was one of them. It’s still extremely minor compared to actual imperialism and genocide committed by western states in times of peace while plundering billions of people in the global south, and it’s something that happened during a period of 10 tumultuous war/preparation years and never happened again, unlike the constant imperialism of the west.

    Again proving that you don’t care about brown people and your entire “leftist” ideology is supported on CIA propaganda.

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      I took one look at you describing the “liberating” of Poland by the soviets because some of it belongs to different modern day countries and new you weren’t arguing in good faith. Invading another country and stealing their land doesn’t magically become “”“liberation”“” just because it was stolen by someone else first.

      You can use this same logic to excuse the nazi invasion of certain countries as well.

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        6 hours ago

        doesn’t magically become “”“liberation”“” just because it was stolen by someone else first

        No, it becomes liberation when majority-Ukrainian regions oppressed under the Polish nationalist state without any mode of representation, recognition of their language, and under bourgeois rule, instead obtain Ukrainian representation and institutions and recognition of its language as an official language. I assume you would know this since you seem to care so much about Ukrainians?

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          After Russia brutally suppressed their independence, then sent 10 million of them off to die to protect Russians. Which you keep wilfully ignoring.

          Ukrainians didn’t want to be under Russian rule. It’s wild the mental gymnastics you’re doing to excuse Russia allying with Hitler himself to steal foreign land. So I’ll say again, the fact those regions were mistreated under Poland does mean it’s okay to invade them and colonise them.

          Like you can find examples of time were colonial countries “”“liberated”“” foreign nations in much the same way, putting them under a different boot and treating them marginally better than the last guy. But if a colonial apologist gave you that argument you would (rightly) not accept it, would you?

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            57 minutes ago

            Ukrainians didn’t want to be under Russian rule.

            The Secretary General Nikita Khruschyov of the Soviet Union was Ukrainian… The claims of Russification of the Soviet Union are wildly exaggerated by western sources as proven by the fact that Kazakhstan is its own country with its own culture, as are Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia, Ukraine, Belarus…

            mental gymnastics you’re doing to excuse Russia allying with Hitler

            go ahead. Answer point by point to my comment that i showed you, I’m looking forward to that instead of vibes-based claims.

            Like you can find examples of time were colonial countries “”“liberated”“” foreign nations in much the same way, putting them under a different boot and treating them marginally better than the last guy

            What’s the life expectancy in Russia or China vs what is it in Indonesia or Myanmar? What’s the le expectancy in Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan compared to Afghanistan or Pakistan?