Have to use Windows for work (I’ve asked), the ads have been getting worse and worse on my work laptop. Today got a game ad notification… That’s clearly too far, right? Like I have to clear notifications, so I have to see it
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I think it’s time someone created a /c/fuckwindows or something because this community basically shits Windows every day. (Not that I don’t appreciate it, but I think that should be a better place for it).
!Linux@lemmy.ml needs a bit more focus on Linux tech, news and discussion instead of Windows and Linux memes. We have !LinuxMemes@lemmy.world for the latter.
Same thing with /c/Firefox and Chrome.
Windows Shitpost Wednesday and removals every other day of the week.
Mods need to get on this.
I agree
Go to Manage Notifications, and turn Suggestions off. Suggestions is what Microsoft calls ads.
That’s because your IT department hasn’t turned all that crap off with group policy.
The fact that you need a group policy to turn this kind of garbage off is ridiculous.
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Tthe problem is now if you have the store disabled basic shit, like the ability to open .heic files is broken or use stuff people want like sticky notes is broken.
We turn off most of what we can’t but having the store enabled causes all sorts of stuff.
Also windows 11 has ads baked in even with the store disabled. Plug in a Logitech mouse, get a pop up for their software. Open the picture viewer and get an ad to install some video editor that isn’t clear whether it’s a Ms product or not.
No to mention basic things like copy paste and edit are now weird icons because I guess they think most users are illiterate.
Most of the 11 UI changes are not for the better. Having to beta test it for work is frustrating and I run an IT shop.
Omg I loathe those icons. They are so much harder to use than words, cuz I still have to hover over them to make sure it’s the right thing.
Windows 11, in general, feels so shit after being on Ubuntu.
But I see Linux has decent touchscreen support now so as soon as I’m done at this job, that sucker is getting formatted 😈
MS goes out of their way to make shit harder than it needs to be.
For example. The store, they have a store for business where you can simply whitelist known apps buts it’s a PITA to setup AND they have been threatening to decom it for ages
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-store/microsoft-store-for-business-overview
Want to add safety/security features like secuirty keys. Well if you do it on a non domain joined machine you can just sign into a m365 account to enable a passkey or yuibijey as a second factor.
Want to do that in a business environment. Congrats now you have to deploy a windows CA and issue user certificates to tie to this. Even if you are signing the machine into m365 with ADAL.
They go out of their way to add complexity and failure points.
They go out of their way to add complexity and failure points.
I read a thing just the other day about essentially that. Not that specific issue, but the way their timekeeping works (by default) and is a disaster (literally) when it fails.
That is crazy. According to a comment on that article, most BIOS uses UTC (as does Linux, obviously), but Windows uses localtime for some reason, so it converts UTC to localtime after boot, then back to UTC when it needs to do little things like networking or TLS.
Yes, it used to break dualbooting, since it reset the clock each time, it was driving me mad.
The solution was simple - erase the ntfs partition.
Now that I don’t use windows anymore, I really want to see how crappy of an OS they can make it. It’s fun to watch.
Funnily I get confused with the copy paste icons than with just text.
Christ that explains why I can’t open pictures on my work pc, thanks
To that I would argue why should IT need to waist their time turning that crap off. IT should be off by default.
It shouldn’t even be part of an OS at all. I haven’t purchased Windows in probably about twenty years but if I did I would expect that if I pay for software, it’s not going to come and try to keep selling me more crap. This is just one of the reasons I use Linux.
And people just get on with it and download these chappy things that turn things off in group policy editor, like u shouldn’t need to download an app to not get ads on something u paid for
Do you not purchase laptops? I have no option than to buy windows every 4-6 years along with the laptop.
We only ever buy second hand laptops. When our teen bought his brand new PC, it came installed with Windows. I asked the shop, when enquiring about customisation, if it could come without Windows but was told that it had already been installed and even if we opted to wait for one that wasn’t built yet, the mount of money they charge for OEM Windows is very little so we wouldn’t save much anyway.
Outside of donating, Linux distros don’t cost anything so it’s not like paying for an OS on top of paying for an OS.
My recent purchase had both win 11 home and office pre installed. Most consumer laptop with decent spec dont give OS as option in my country.
We are collectively paying for it to get that discounted price. Retail win 11 pro sells for 10% the price of a mid range office laptop without gpu.
My point isn’t how simple it is to turn off, my point is why is that turn on by default in the first place? Last I checked to join a Window’s domain you need a Professional/Enterprise version of Windows. This is software intended for a business environment not only that, it also costs much more as well. Yet here we are by default my Profession Windows install comes with Candy Crush and Game Pass ads. Great job Microsoft you have done it again.
It’s fucking disgusting that it even exists on the consumer version bundled for $2 to OEMs with terrible computers.
Let alone the premium versions.
This is the only argument I find makes sense. It would definitely be elementary for Microsoft to have those consumer features turned off by default in the Pro/Pro for Workstations/Enterprise/etc editions.
You’re not wrong, but there’s a million little things you only have to do once, and this is one more.
Yeah, there are a lot of things that need doing. That’s why people have jobs in IT.
Then they are just parasites of the society. haha (I mean, being paid for removing shit that another company worker get paid to put in, makes no sense, and it’s a waste of resources and money)
https://kbin.social/m/linux@lemmy.ml/t/357453/Game-ad-notification-on-Windows#entry-comment-1737009
A classic parable of the broken Windows.
Yea, I work in a windows shop. All this shit is turned off for any device in our domain. No BYOD either.
Winprivacy.de get it, run it, disable ads and trackers.
winprivacy.de truly rocks.
Nice, never heard of it…
This is by far the funniest marketing strategy I’ve seen.
Well done.
Everytime you see an ad for a game, you should ask yourself: “does this run on Linux?” Majority of the time and the answer is yes. Just saying!
Fully committed, this year had been a massive improvement and I’d love to say I’m linux baby!
Woah, you are the Linux?
No, they baby, Linux baby to be specific
What about Tarkov?
Dunno I play good games
I’m not familiar with this game but if Escape from Tarkov is what you mean, it’s not listed in Proton DB. It IS listed in Wine App DB: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=37794
as Platinum with wine-staging 4.2 but that was from like 4 years ago and I don’t know what updates the game’s had since then.
Only thing I can suggest is dual boot Linux and try it. Since I’ve only ever dual booted, I’m not so familiar with Linux VMs and containers so I don’t know if they’d work or if booting from a live environment USB would be sufficient to test the game with Wine.
If you don’t dual boot, asking in one of the Linux Gaming communities might answer that question.
Case in point, Deathloop runs nicely on my gaming PC and Steam Deck.
I use windows 11 pro, and I don’t see any of these ads anywhere ever. Is that something the home versions only do? Did I turn off some setting proactively at setup that prevents the ads?
I have seen it om our company pro ;nstall before, and also not, so maybe it is group policy controlled
So is that a personal laptop your using for work or a work laptop? Because if it’s the latter, they’re doing a terrible job setting policies and turning crap off with either GPO or some DSC system.
It’s a work laptop We’re a small company - I still feel like calling our IT terrible instead of Microsoft is misguided though
Yeah there are ways to turn that off. Additionally business should be using Enterprise edition which doesn’t have the telemetry or that unneeded bloat. You have an incompetent IT department.
Yeah, I’ve never had an ad like that on a work laptop, ever. A good IT dept will lock down the experience to minimize distractions for business purposes, and lock down features that aren’t appropriate for work.
I mean, I agree, but the problem isn’t just that I see this at work. I shouldn’t have to see it on a paid operating system. This is a normal user experience on Windows. Ads everywhere is annoying. I understand people can be proactive to disable this stuff, but I think it’s crumby of Microsoft to do
I would just dualboot
Why not posting this on a windows community? Or is OP expecting those sweet linux circlejerky replies?
OP is actually an Xbox employee doing some very intense guerilla marketing.
Now everyone here knows that Deathloop is out and available on the Xbox app.
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There are ads in Windows?
Yes they are going to fill windows with ads as far as I’ve understood correctly
yep, iirc it started in windows 8 where they would suggest third party apps directly in your app menu back in 2013
I use Windows exclusively and have never seen a single ad.
Depends on the license you have. Also they are termed as suggestions/recommendations.
Right, I don’t have a licence :)
It looks like ads from the Xbox app (could be wrong)
Wife started getting these ads as well. Each time she complains I try to hand her my Linux USB drive.
Keep trying! My teen recently bought his first PC. It came with Win11 and I offered to put Linux on it for him. He replied, “Nah, it’s OK, I’m not a programmer”. I was like… wait, huh? I don’t even know where he would get that idea from since the only programming I’ve ever done was websites and haven’t done that in years. Hubby doesn’t do much programming any more either. We game on our PCs… Email. Browse the interwebs. Watch videos. Discord… blah blah. Literally all the same shit our teen does and yet Linux.
Anyways, I waited until he was trapped in the car with me on a longer drive and told him all the wonderful things about Linux and sold it to him on the idea that I’ll set it up as dual boot. Give Linux a couple of weeks and if you don’t like it, you can always switch to Windows. It’s been about a month now and Windows still isn’t even installed 😂
“Mooom, why can’t I play Fortnite and Valorant anymore?!”
Thankfully our teen never caught those addictions. 😅
I don’t understand how this is possible, two parents that use Linux and he thinks Windows is the way to go? Kids in school are actually idiots.
That said, I can’t get any of my family to use Linux. My friend tried for a while but asked me to put Windows 10 LTSC on it instead, because he wanted to click “Install” on Steam without worrying about messing with Proton settings and checking ProtonDB, which is reasonable. Some just don’t want to do the extra work, I hope some day that operating systems on our favorite kernel make it easy for plebians to use.
“use my power I beg you!”
That quote is just so good, I need to use it more often
You can turn the entire notification system off. The fucking thing is pointless anyway.
On a personal rig? Heck yes.
On a work laptop? Uhhh not too sure about that… sinkholing Teams, Outlook and Devops notifications sounds like a quick way to lose track of visibilityMicrosoft know exactly what they’re doing with their spyware and adware walled garden 😔
If its a work laptop then their IT dept isn’t doing shit. Just change the GPO. I’ve literally never seen this on my work or personal PC.
For as long as MS makes products for enterprise environments, there will be a way to turn this shit off.
I agree. I never had ads in Windows whatsoever. The only which is still nagging me is all the crapware Windows comes preinstalled with. I can’t count how many times I uninstalled that damn solitaire collection by now.
What version are you using? If you install from an ent version, none of that stuff is there.
I got a notification advertising Minecraft the other day. I’m positive I have all the settings about suggested content turned off. At least you can disable notifications per app, this one was from “Suggested”.
Same here, it was all supposed to be off. First thing I do everytime i have to deal with Windows.
Never had anything like that on either my personal (two of them) or work W11 installs, nor on my girlfriend’s personal or work installs, so I don’t know where the complains about adverts come from, I’ve never seen them 🤷
Well, you’ve seen it now
Well that person need to get their fingers out of their ass and stop farming karma, because clearly if I don’t see them without any effort then I don’t know how they manage to run Linux instead of Windows 'cuz that sure does require effort!
M$: “Windows is the best OS for gaming!!!”
Ok, fine. From now on ONLY my gaming PC will run windows, and my gaming PC is GeForce Now.
M$: “No! Not like that!”
I use https://github.com/hellzerg/optimizer to remove Windows shit.
Chris Titus tools and Ameliorated.io playbooks are way better.
I have been using the CTT tools before, but Optimizer seems much better, faster and cleaner. And Ameliorated seems still beta, no documentation as CTT said, neither 100% open source. I don’t want to support non-open-souce projects at all. 😞
There is nothing wrong in using and supporting trusted peoples’ work, even if they make closed source wrappers. Ameliorated project and Titus’ scripts are open source. Titus’ EXE GUI wrapper is closed and paywalled, he even livestreams his code and git repo work on Twitch/YouTube.
These people are not money grubber corporations stealing even one bit of data.
Yes, it is wrong to use apps or support people making closed source apps. Closed source will always damage us.
The world is not as black and white, and there is value and space for closed source software. The world runs on it. Advocating for FOSS does not mean it is intelligent to become a cultist.
Nope, the world runs on Open Source, many Closed Sources use Open Source, or they couldn’t exist.
That is false. The world runs on both open and closed source code. Active Directory for example is well known, and is supported by Ubuntu and other corporate distros. MS Office, Photoshop, CorelDraw and numerous video/audio editors are just a few examples.
