edit: As I’m seeing a lot of worry about the impact this will/could have on the community, please be assured we have the same mod team, and will be holding the community to the same standards. the same things that were always allowed will continue to be allowed and the same things that got things removed before will continue to get things removed before. Lemmy.world admins have agreed to allow us to run our community on our terms.
It is my pleasure to announce that effective immediately, we are transferring our community to Lemmy.world! This has been a few months in the making, so my entire mod team is already on board.
FAQ:
Why?
That’s a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada’s excellent team of admins. We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this. In addition to this, we have had ongoing issues with federation and moderation that has caused a subpar experience for many people on other instances.
How does this work?
Currently, as there is not an easy way to transfer an entire community (trust me, we checked), we are locking the community as mod-only, and moving our focus to the 196 on lemmy.world. For you guys, functionally nothing has changed.
What about the posts?
Well, we tried to transfer them, but there was no real way to do so without absolutely destroying lemmy.world’s federation. For this reason, we are simply archiving this community as mod-only. Everything is staying up, you just won’t be able to post new content. Comments are still enabled, so we will continue to check our modlogs for some time after the transfer has settled.
As for the posts on lemmy.world’s 196, we’re leaving those up too. From this point onwards, all posts made to that community are beholden to the rules you are all used to, but anything pre-existing is getting grandfathered in.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST, AND I’LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM.
Once again, here’s the link to our new apartment of awesome. (universal: !196@lemmy.world)

  • TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    1669·
    6 days ago

    I strongly disagree with this decision and the reasoning behind it. Blahaj is, in my opinion, the best place for this community specifically because of the strong moderation and policies of Ada and other admins here.

    Lemmy.world is also the worst instance I can think of outside of the big three tankie instances. It contributes further to the centralization of Lemmy as a whole (since 196 has been one of the most active communities on the entire platform). In my opinion, the .world crowd’s liberal and pro-colonialist/capitalist tendencies are a terrible fit for this community.

    I’d have rather seen Blahaj defederate from .world than 196 move there, even if it meant less content and engagement. At least the cultural values of the community wouldn’t have been compromised.

    • Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      44·
      5 days ago

      Weren’t .world admins also banning references to jury nullification and jokes about Luigi Mangioni killing more CEO’s?

        • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          29·
          5 days ago

          It’s a term in online parlance that makes reference to a comic, and it means someone who intrudes into someone else’s space and derails their conversations under the pretext of civil disagreement.

          • Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            67·
            5 days ago

            I never really liked this comic or the concept of sealioning because in this comic the ‘annoying’ entity is someone who is being outcasted based on their identity. In a comparison between bigots and marginalised groups, a marginalised group has more in common with the sea lion than the humans, and the bigots have more in common with the humans.

            The comic is more logically read as bigots that are annoyed that the minority they’re discriminating against is defending their rights to exist.

            • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              10·
              5 days ago

              I never really liked this comic or the concept of sealioning because in this comic the ‘annoying’ entity is someone who is being outcasted based on their identity.

              While I understand and to some degree even share your feelings towards the original comic, the concept of sealioning that spawned from it is generally quite far divorced from that particular issue IME, which is why I focused my definition on the aspects of the behaviour that make it a PITA to deal with.

        • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          221·
          5 days ago

          People who argue in bad faith while trying to maintain an aura of civility. The whole “I’m just asking questions” bs that tries to win by baiting you into getting angry.

    • A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.worldMEnglish
      1329·
      6 days ago

      In my opinion, the .world crowd’s liberal and pro-colonialist/capitalist tendencies are a terrible fit for this community.

      I haven’t noticed this, personally. But even if that’s true, the way I see it, having more explicitly left-leaning communities can only help remedy that issue.

      At least the cultural values of the community wouldn’t have been compromised.

      The only thing that’s changing is our location. Our moderation policies are staying the same and I don’t expect any significant changes in the types of users coming into this community. And if we do get an influx of bad actors or trolls, we’ll do what we’ve always done and remove them.

      The only difference for you guys is going to be what’s written after the @ symbol.

      • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        37·
        5 days ago

        In my opinion, the .world crowd’s liberal and pro-colonialist/capitalist tendencies are a terrible fit for this community.

        I haven’t noticed this, personally.

        This is a pretty alarming sign for where lemmy.world/c/196 is headed tbh and it leads me to believe that what you’re calling “heavy-handed” moderation on Ada’s part is actually just her being able to notice shit that you don’t.

      • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
        421·
        5 days ago

        The only thing that’s changing is our location. Our moderation policies are staying the same

        That’s pretty rich, since the .world admins just very recently made a statement where they proudly wanted to force every mod to change their policies. Including the statement that mods would be forced to follow their new rules.

        • A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          515·
          5 days ago

          They rescinded that statement, which I think is a good sign. We gave them feedback and they listened.

          The policy was obviously flawed, but I think the spirit of the post was valid. Instances like .ml have major censorship problems, and if they want to be the opposite of them then that’s great.

          I haven’t interacted with the LW admins much, but I’m confident that they’ll be more flexible than LBZ if they do end up taking issue with our mod actions. But I don’t think it’ll come to that anyways.

          • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            51·
            5 days ago

            They rescinded that statement, which I think is a good sign. We gave them feedback and they listened.

            Good. Your community is giving you feedback now.

      • TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        81·
        6 days ago

        I dislike most big .world communities and the centralization of Lemmy, but I’m glad you guys feel confident in your ability to cultivate the same community in a larger and less curated space.