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Most major subreddits show a decrease of between 50 and 90 percent in average daily posts and comments, when compared to a year ago. This suggests the problem is way fewer users, not the same number of users browsing less. The huge and universal dropoff also suggests that people left, either because of the changes or the protests, and they aren’t coming back.

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    I migrated entirely to Lemmy and I don’t regret it. I do miss the amount of content on Reddit, but at least I know I’m not supporting them anymore.

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      I’ll be honest I have spent the last couple months laughing my ass off at /c/risa since I jumped ship.

      Yes lemmy is rough as a badgers arse but I’ll take this over endless streams of how fucked we all are or wall to wall yank politics.

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        People keep saying lemmy is rough, but so far it’s running just as well for me as reddit with the exception of a few hiccups. It actually has more features for navigation

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          When I say rough ideas qol stuff not stability. I have a couple instance accounts for the hiccups. Things like blocking communities I am not interested not being fed wide. Its kinda like plying wakamole.

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          My biggest issue is that community discovery is difficult. I browse through the Memmy app and joining communities that are new or niche is really hard. Often times links just don’t work, it might be because I’m on a smaller instance, but it’s difficult to find communities targeting my interests because of this.

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          Ive been using memmy and do not notice any significant problems, it feels roughly like RIF did before it got shut down. Yeah there’s some small things that need to be fixed but it’s scratching the exact same itch.

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            Not OP but for me Memmy for Lemmy does a good job replacing the Reddit experience I had in the past.

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              I’ve been using Memmy for a while and am thinking of switching to something else. It’s still a bit unpolished and buggy. It’s solid as a lemmy app but I suspect there are better things out there like sync.

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                Voyager’s new app is great and extremely solid. Avelon and Bean are great, but they might be iOS only - not sure.

                Bean requires a subscription or a pricey lifetime purchase for full features, like Sync for Android, but it’s very smooth and polished and it has community grouping.

                Avelon’s community browser is 🤌.

                Lots of great devs still coming through with new apps for Lemmy.

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                  I experimented with a bunch of Lemmy clients and came to the conclusion that Bean is the best app for me. Thunder comes second, Voyager second, Lifoff third and so on.

                  Memmy, Lemmios and Mlem still need so much work that I was surprised to find that some people find any of those apps adequate. Apparently personal preferences and needs play a significant role here.

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            Voyager is so much like Apollo, but I use Lemmy to share images since Voyager only shares links for now.

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            Thunder is my favorite so far. The heavy focus on gestures took some getting used to for me but I’m on board with it now.

            (Also, not OP)

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                Thunder is fantastic though i bet the team hates hearing from me. I test absolutely everything for screen reader accessibility and have submitted many many bugs. Thunder may very possibly bevthe most screen reader accessible lemmy app out their and that would be because of my reports and the fantastic coders.

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                … really? I looked hard (I thought) when I started and didn’t find the settings to disable the gestures. Maybe I was drunk. I just updated so I’ll take another look.

                EDIT: there’s an entire setting category named “gestures”. Either I was drunk or blind or both last time I searched for those settings. Thanks

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        I know fuck all about trek, never really watched it, but I’ve been finding some of the memes there quite amusing

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        To be honest there’s an annoying about of cynical politics here too, I’d debate these people, but I often don’t have the energy.

        Sincerely -a yank

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        c/Risa is hands down my fav community! And very active.

        Lemmy is kind of rough, but I’ve started to love it. I definitely think that I get the same content satisfaction I had at reddit – I think it’s more true of niche communities on Lemmy at the moment.

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          I’d rather they didn’t.

          My country is old enough that alot of places aren’t built for cars at all

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        I’m not sure what you’ve been looking at but the “we’re fucked” politics is just as bad if not worse here. Its just WAY further left.

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      14 year redditor and I go back and forth (only for 2 subreddits) but majority of reddit, including the news portions are completely dead. RIP r/pbsnews. I vow not to comment or submit any new links for them.

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          Yeah, I spend half as much time just endlessly scrolling anymore. Phone use is down and the time I spend on my PC feels more productive too.

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          I do a lot more reading books when I want stimulation now. I still browse lemmy if I’ve only got a few minutes, like waiting for a build to finish in Visual Studio, but I’ll grab my ereader for anything longer than that.

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      Ditto. Lemmy could see more content, but the current amount is enough to keep me entertained.

      Frankly the only two situations nowadays when I open Reddit is 1) cross-checking stuff posted in this comm, and 2) copypasting stuff from Reddit to Lemmy to avoid giving it more pageviews.

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      I moved the Reddit content I wanted into an RSS feed by putting the subreddit URL followed by /.rss into the feed URL and it works

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      Same, but I justify it to myself by the fact that I spend significantly less time doomscrolling.

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        I’m not much into sports, but I’ll be cheering you and your efforts on! Go team go! I try to post occasionally myself things that might spur discussion.

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      Lemmy can feel slow at times but the byproduct is that I find myself searching for new communities, not just replacements for my old reddit favorites.

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    Because the most active contributing users left. I used to comment a lot on reddit, but I’ve been exclusively on Lemmy since my 3rd party app was axed.

    And I’ve been very active here. Like, even on this alt account that I made 16 days ago, my app says my post “karma” is already higher than my reddit comment karma was from over a decade.

    I feel more willing to contribute because there’s a sense of community, and I’m not just providing free entertainment for a company to profit off of.

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      I used to comment a lot on reddit

      Same. I had a 15 year account with a couple hundred thousand karma and commented and posted a lot. If you piss off the people who actually use the site you will reap what you sow. Reddit should have known that since the exact scenario happened fir Digg when everyone migrated to reddit.

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        They looked at the leaves, and failed to see the forest, thinking that simply not killing old.reddit was enough to avoid Digg-ing the grave. Because from their view that’s how Digg died - v4 happened, users couldn’t go back, they got pissy, and they left.

        @megane_kun@lemm.ee is also right when he says that they compared Reddit with other social media platforms and took the wrong conclusions. What keeps people in Facebook aren’t “content creators” or what have you, but their relatives and friends; in Reddit there’s no such thing, people weren’t there because of more people but because of the content that those people created, so their connection with the platform is considerably weaker.

        I also think that the trust thermocline played a role. It wasn’t the first time that the platform pissed its own users.

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          Agreed on the reasons why FB stayed relatively strong despite its reputation going down the drain. What kept many people from leaving FB for good is actually network effects: that one’s friends and family, coworkers and colleagues, are more likely to be in FB than not in it. Huffman’s site? Not so much. I don’t care if someone I know IRL is in it, and I sure as hell wouldn’t want them to know I used it.

          The platform formerly known as Twitter is a more apt comparison, to be honest, but it’s still way too early to tell if it has actually weathered the storm, or has become so rotten on the inside that it’d spectacularly fail in the near future.

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            Perhaps Twitter is a third can of worms, it’s neither about content (as Reddit) nor the users’ social circles (as FB), more like a few anchor people keeping the others there. Due to that Musk’s idea (to pay creators to stay there) might actually help.

            I still think that it’ll fail due to other decisions Musk took, but less spectacularly than Reddit. Musk is at least trying to think by himself, Spez is simply following others.

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              I think Steve Huffman is only after the possible profits he’d make on the IPO. He doesn’t care if his reputation would be sullied amongst the proles like us, nor does he care if he’s being original and ground-breaking. He just cares about the money.

              Will it work though? I want to bet on the possibility that his IPO will fail due to all the bad news about his site as of recent, but given that the world in general has been disappointing recently, I’ll just keep my money to myself, lol!

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                He is after the IPO money but Dunning-Kruger is the hell of a drug, Spez is simply not a good CEO and he doesn’t know how to maximise pre-IPO numbers. So odds are that he thought “who’s in the same situation as me? Ah, The Iron Man¹! He’s a cool guy, has lots of money and a platform like mine. I assume that he knows what he is doing², so I’ll ape what he did!”. Musk killed 3PAs and got rid of the people criticising his platform, so did Spez.

                And killing 3PAs pre-IPO does actually have some merit. They created value³ for Reddit, but detracted from the immediate profit; but if you’re selling the company you don’t care about the value, you care about the immediate profit to show your potential buyers “see? This company is profitable, gib lotsa moni”. However odds are that things happened faster than Spez predicted, odds are that he assumed that the protests would last a bit and die, not that people would say “enough of this shit”. And now odds are that he lost that “magical” window of opportunity to maximise Reddit’s price to the potential new buyers.

                1. I cringed writing this.
                2. Spoilers: Musk does not know what he’s doing.
                3. By “value” here I mean the potential of a company to generate profit over time.
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                  Hahahaha~‌ If it’s any consolation to you, I‌ also cringed reading the part that made you cringe while writing it. More than enough cringe for all of us to share around!

                  Yeah, you actually said out loud what I was just thinking to myself when I wrote my previous reply. Not exactly what you wrote, but I was thinking that if it worked for others, it’s good enough for himself. Why think of a good idea when you can just copy others’? Something along those lines. However, copying ideas actually does take some work as well. It’s not enough to just copy what they did and apply it to your situation. You’ve also got to think about whether or not what you’re copying is a good fit for your circumstances.

                  About the third point though, the way I see it is that Huffman tried his best (the key word is ‘tried’) to increase the profitability of his site to entice potential buyers, which even though it’d detract from immediate profitability, would add to the money he’d cash out at the IPO in the end—or so he imagines. Agreed with how things didn’t happen according to how Steve anticipated them though. And in fairness to Huffman, other flareups have ended in a similar way. What he didn’t anticipate is how these changes (the API changes) will affect how a lot of people (and the ones that contribute a lot of content) would interact with his site. So, yeah!

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        It’s easy to argue why they thought it’s not going to happen to them. They saw Facebook shrug off all of its scandals, and thought that being in a similar position, network effects are going to help them weather any storm. And it can be argued that Steve Huffman and his site did weather this particular storm. But like Facebook, trust in Huffman’s site have taken a blow, and in the demographic that they would ill afford to antagonize.

        That we’re starting to see its effects as early as now should scare any sane person in Huffman Inc.

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      I had over 300k comment karma, on the site every single day for about 10 years. Comparing the comments here vs there it’s crazy I hung around so long. It’s like getting out of an abusive relationship, you don’t realize how much you’re being mistreated until you’re out from under them.

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        Yeah. Lemmy users aren’t saints but there’s a lot more friendly, cool and deep discussion than on Reddit. In the last year before I left, I had felt it’s gone so shallow.

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        Same. Thing is, I would usually get gold like once or twice a month. I would post well sourced, long and often highly upvoted comments. Try to be genuinely helpful or insightful. I used to be a journalist, it was an outlet for me.

        Not that they were that great, redditers upvoting stuff doesn’t make a comment right or interesting, and wasting too much time there was really not something to be proud of, but if just ten thousand users like you and me quit reddit, that leaves mainly teenagers, bots and ‘comedians’ rehashing the same tired puns.

        It can effectively kill smaller subreddits, as has quite obviously happened in some cases.

        We weren’t just customers, we also produced a disproportionate amount of the content on reddit. More than our relatively small numbers would suggest. IRC the 1% rule states that only 1% of users actively post/comment. If you’re posting relatively coherent or thought out comments, you’re the 1% of that 1%.

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      I’m sure the notifications are annoying you by now, but I’d like to borrow the moment to agree with everyone else. You’re one of the users who have ended up becoming this place’s lifeblood somehow, and I pretty much always enjoy whatever you post. Or at least, a ton of what I enjoy ends up having your name on it.

      I heavily appreciate seeing you around and while you are allowed to slow down for the sake of your sanity, I would notice and miss it.

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        Not an annoyance at all! I don’t have push notifications on, so I just check whenever I open the app next.

        And I really appreciate the kind words. I’m just happy to support lemmy growing, one dumb meme at a time.

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      No offense I thought you were a bot given how often I see your username haha. Good on you! You are helping to make this a better place

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      I’ve been noticing your username a lot lately. Solid memes, thank you for your service🫡

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      I’ve definitely seen you around a lot lately. 😁 Thanks for the joy and memes.

      I was never famous on Reddit but I was a prolific commenter for six years. I gradually phased out from Reddit as I got into Lemmy until July, when I pledged not to comment or vote on Reddit ever again. I’ve since kept my word.

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        For Lemmy?

        Some apps add it up for you. One of the apps I use frequently is Voyager (on Android), and it shows it on the profile page.

        For example, here’s yours: (I assume I can’t see 100% of the votes though, in case your instance is federated with any that mine’s not"

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      Yeah I already seem to be somewhere among the 1% top posters on Lemmy and I bet users like me were much more valuable to reddit than 10 lurkers. I’m sure a relatively tiny fraction of the users created 90% of the content on reddit and those most likely are also the people most annoyed by the death of 3rd party apps and I’m sure there’s a ton of others like me who switched. That’ll definitely show in the activity even though it might not be much in absolute numbers.

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        Is this data really accurate? The difference is insane for every subreddit I checked.

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          I think so, all the older data points make sense (you can clearly make out the begin of COVID and the Ukraine war). It’s really insane, 50-90% less activity is no exaggeration.

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          Well, the site says it shouldn’t be used for serious purposes, but I would say it’s still safe to consider it semi-quantitative. If you see a drop like that, there really is a drop. What the exact value was before or after might not be that reliable, but it’s not even important in this case.

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        Wow, that’s a serious drop off! I looked at a few of my old fave subreddits and they’re all the same. It’s like one of those old towns in the US that was once on a main highway before a new route was built. Once bustling, now dead.

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        I feel like this is by design. Reddit never wanted to be a discussion board. It wants users to keep scrolling so they see more ads.

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          Oh, that is a good point actually. However, drop in comments is probably also associated with a drop in quality posts and the number of people who upvote them.

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          Every sub I cheked got totally nuked to oblivion. No wonder why people are complaining about the quality. Hardly anyone is there to comment or vote.

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            I opened reddit on desktop yesterday for the first time in a while, and I had received a survey from the Admins.

            I’ve never received something like that before. The questions made it seem like they’re trying to figure out why people are unhappy.

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      Because the most active contributing users left.

      could have fooled me; my biggest issue with the fediverse is the lack of content and reddit’s content just keeps getting bigger and bigger by the day.

      fortunately it works for me since i want to detox myself from all social media and the fediverse has so little content to i’m done after 30/45mins per day; in fact, i can still spend hours on reddit unregistered lurker and get more content every day than the entirety of the fediverse since its creation, combined.

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    I never thought it would be so easy to stop going on Reddit, but this place is good enough

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      good enough

      IMO the users here are way more pleasant to spend time with than those on Reddit. The level of hostility in some areas of Reddit was off the charts and it seems the trolls are staying put. This definitely /mademesmile.

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        I really avoided unpleasant subreddits. There were many smaller subreddits that were genuinely fun to be in. I miss those communities here. One that comes to mind is r/gintama. That sub was a great source of joy for me. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find one here.

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        There is a bit of a hiccup with hexbear and lemmygrad but besides that, I feel it’s a very welcoming place here

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          I thought that CrunchyJamCreator name sounded familiar. Seems to be one of the 130 accounts I’ve blocked already.

          I honestly feel like the only way to have a nice social media experience is by strictly curating your feed. You can’t pay attention to everything anyways so by cutting out the trash you vastly improve the signal to noise ratio. If I see someone posting a stupid comment I open their profile and quickly go thru it to see if they’re posting anything of a value. If not I block them and move on.

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          you cant really expect anything else from chapotraphouse, the reason they’re on lemmy (also why lemmy even is a thing to begin with) is because they got banned off reddit together with other far left subs

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          Oh, that reminds me the discussion I had with two nationalists here in Lemmy. Apparently, unless I pretend that fermented and then distilled sugar cane is “magically” different depending country, I’m assumed to be from a nearby country. The whole thing sounded a lot like “gravity doesn’t work on Fridays, and if you say that it does I’m going to pretend that I’m an illiterate and not read it”, i.e. typical Reddit lack of character/rationality/decency.

          I’m saying this because I’ve found this behaviour usually peaks when there’s a large-ish influx of Redditfugees, then it tones down. So it’s likely most the result of recent immigrants; I think that the most obnoxious/Reddit-like ones will end back in Reddit, while the others will learn to not behave like morons.

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            Rum can be very different regarding the nation is comes from because the various Rhum Agricoles are not made the same way Jamaican rum is made and that is due to laws surrounding production.

            For example in Martinique all sugar cane is cut once and then the field is burned and replanted. This means the cane has less wood to it and as a result less wood sugar. In addition you cannot add sugar back into Rhum Agricole to cover faults like you can in most nations.

            There can be very distinct differences but those are entirely due to laws and traditions. There is no notion of terroir, that is that the climate and soil provide unique elements, in sugar cane.

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              You are using arguments. The two nationalists in question weren’t; they were simply “chrust me” and then “lalala I’m not listening this contradicts my nationalism lalala”. And more importantly because they wanted to claim that you’d spoil a drink by using the wrong type of rum. (As if the sort of rum that you’d use to make drinks wasn’t the simplest and most “samey” available - it’s a waste to make a drink with the more iconic stuff.)

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                That’s because Im an American with no skin in the game and I have sold booze in some fashion for decades.

                Lots of people have weirdly nationalistic ideas with booze.

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        Yeah I’ve had some really good conversations here, I had a lot of great little friend groups on Reddit over the years but being here made me realise I haven’t had a really good chat with someone that I genuinely enjoy talking to on there for about five years. I’d honestly just assumed it was me but here I’ve had so many great conversations, I don’t know why but possibly it’s that the good interesting people aren’t drowned out and beaten down by a sea of hostility.

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          i think most apps have a word filter that you could use.

          if you generally want the content but not the spam way you are experiencing you could have another app without filters.

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      Totally agree. And I’m now using more of my time to relearn all the Spanish I’ve forgotten over the last 20 years and even improve beyond my previous level.

      I also made the decision to try to use my social media/YouTube/web-browsing time on learning new things. When I’m in the mood for more mindless activities, I generally opt for watching videos where people bring positivity into the world in some way or another.

      I pop on here once a day or every couple of days to fart around a very short while and then I’m back to doing my thing.

      I occasionally end up on Reddit because a web search had results from there that were intriguing for whatever I was looking up. I never go in as a registered user anymore and those few times I do end up there, I’m in and out without going any farther than the thread that came up in the search results.

      Thanks, Spez, for helping me take back my life!

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      Only thing I miss from reddit is the r/SamHarris subreddit. It was pretty much the only place on the internet, that I know of, where one could have serious, intellectually honest discussions and disagreements.

      I like Lemmy but the content here is, for the most part, focused on certain popular topics and even though there’s still a lot to discuss there the issue is that people have quite strong opinions and generally aren’t willing to entertain alternative views on those subjects but rather have already made their mind and the replies are generally based on emotions but not always facts.

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    I was on reddit for 11 or 12 years. Commented several times a day. Voted 100 times or more per day. Left mid June and haven’t been back once. Now I do that shit here instead.

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    I wanted to call bullshit but they’re entirely right.* Comments per day took a nosedive. Now if only more hobby communities would lift off, I’d be able to abandon Reddit entirely. I’m up to my tits in Linux and privacy guides but I still know nothing of mushroom picking. Nothing!

    Edit: *some users pointed out that subredditstats is no longer capable of accurately tracking comment numbers. I was wrong.

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      And that’s exactly why lemmy needs to grow its userbase significantly before it can ever become mainstream.

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          The beauty of a federated social network, is that even if it becomes mainstream as a whole, there will always be smaller niche instances for us to get away from the big ones on.

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      I’m up to my tits in Linux and privacy guides

      omg I’m seriously loling rn 😆 there’s so much fucking linux on this site. ive been using linux for ~14 years (exclusively for 2), and i have no idea what most linux posts are going on about, nor do i know anyone with a linux pc in my real life. us on lemmy have somehow managed to find each other.

      i give it a few months until i have my own instance, a pi hole (whatever tf that is), and completely blocked google from tracking me in any way.

      • I still love seeing them despite lying outside my interests. Seeing someone’s passion project or troubleshooting session from the outside is interesting, if only thanks to their enthusiasm inspiring novel approaches and clever workarounds.

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          yeah, it’s engaging and entertaining. i spent half an hour yesterday going through a thread where OP argued for the use of linux in business settings and the comments were reaming OP for his arguments. i was like, “jeez. dont make a mistake on this site. people will let you have it.” OP should wait a few weeks, make an alternate account, and argue for the use of Win over linux in business settings to get the other end covered. 😆

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        I like a good project. Pi-Hole actually frustrated me with how easy and straightforward it was to set up. Maybe like- ten minutes total. You won’t regret it.

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        Pi-hole isn’t a complicated tech thing!

        It’s just a raspberry pi with a piece of software that you attach to your router and set up block lists that…

        Well shit, maybe it is.

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      Thanks for the giggle. Coffee wasn’t helping that much but the thought of someone just standing near some mushrooms and dramatically throwing their hands in the air pepped me right up

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        We have mycology and a few shrooms communities. Just browse my history for the exact links and some neeto grow pics.

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            Personally, since it isn’t Reddit, yes.

            The communities here are small, unfortunately. Once more people migrate over here, it has the potential to be much better. Without a doubt, the communities aren’t large enough to have a ton of accurate knowledge sharing.

            Until then, we should just keep contributing! While I am likely a “top poster” on the shroom communities, I do have some good conversations in the comments. Many people are just lurking and that is totally cool!

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      Shit you’re right. I never imagined it was this massive a phenomenon. I guess there’s even more lurkers than posters now.

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      How accurate is that site, though? I checked one sub and it seems to heavily undercount the number of threads and comments.

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      Is Subredditstats still working after reddit api changes?

      My guess is that they are also rate limited, so that information may not be valid.

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    Content creators left.

    You lose those, you’re fucked. A full fckin 80-90% of any given user base are consumers / commenters and they follow content. Creators are a keystone species.

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    The completely unblockable hegetsus ads were really what made me switch to Apollo from the official Reddit app. Then killing third party apps made me leave for good. Bravo, Reddit

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    A large chunk of the core 1% contributor base dropped Reddit.

    • I was behind migrating few of the biggest heavyweights, like datahoarder, piracy and so on.
    • I also helped cause critical damage to Reddit by being the first official subreddit, privatelife, to have migrated to Lemmy many years ago, and to have voiced against spez and reddit’s CIA political agendas in plenty capacity.
    • also have been probably the only subreddit to have closed it on Reddit and made Lemmy the only official place for it.
    • I have also been one of the few core Lemmy builders during the past 3 years, doing almost everything other than software development.

    My privacy community on Reddit had a staggering 12K users with an activity of 100-150 active users all the time. I sacrificed it, and about 1.3K of those moved to Lemmy. It was the only authentic privacy community on reddit, with none to replace it. r/privacy and r/privacyguides are full of bullshitters, donation stealers and harassers.

    I for the first time saw a reddit alternative that was not run by right wing nutjobs or was not infested with rightwingers/freezepeachers/nazis/pedos, and had potential to make it the true reddit alternative close to what I imagined. Thanks to OG fellow comrades (you all know who you are), and thanks to the one who told me to go help Lemmy (you da goat), Lemmy is kind of what I wanted it to be. It has a good foundation.

    Shortcoming of content other than memes and political bickering needs to be fixed. And people need to stop being consoomers and playing musical chairs with this problem. Try to put in some effort instead of making Lemmy yet another toilet scrolling app.

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        Flick through posts, open posts with one tap, get your dopamine. Reddit is also used more by introverted and nerdy people, as opposed to extroverts that use Instagram who would openly watch celebrity related stuff on feeds. Reddit has more user created while Instagram has more “manufactured” content.

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          I contribute a lot here (on different accounts) as an extrovert who just also happens to not care about celebrities. I used to be on Instagram because I care about my friends who use it, but the platform got enshittified enough to drive me off. Yes, maybe I won’t know that you went on vacation so I won’t be able to bring that up as a conversation topic, you’ll have to remember that yourself and bring it up in conversation. But that’s not exactly a great loss and neither is having one fewer person viewing your pictures and tapping “like” on it. A big part of my extroversion is that I like discussing things. Kbin and Lemmy are places to do that.

          I toilet scroll these because it’s something short and engaging I can do instead of just doing nothing while waiting for the human waste disposal process to finish.

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      Man, if I could blow my own horn as well as you blow yours I too would need a whole lot of privacy!

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      I wasn’t one of the 1% on Reddit, not even remotely close, but I suspect I might be close on lemmy (excluding repost/mirror/auto bots). I really wanted lemmy to succeed and knew that some people, almost any people, had to step up and help get the ball rolling initially. So I started 5 Reddit subs I missed, posted content every day for a few weeks and they’ve been reasonably successful. !badrealestate has 5k subscribers and that feels like a decent contribution.

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        I say that’s good, you are not playing musical chairs. Almost all people are capable of posting or generating content in some capacity.

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    If you open Reddit without an account on a browser, it will automatically create a username for you when you are on site now. Hopped on to look at a post on a semi active subreddit and saw I was somehow logged in, but it was an auto generated account name. Wonder if they are trying to boost numbers that way as well

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      Can you replicate this using fully fresh Chrome and Firefox user profiles over a fresh IP address, like that of a paid VPN? It will be breaking news material if true.

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      Just tried it and that did not happen. There was a pop-up asking me to sign in via Google though so I’m going to guess you accidentally clicked yes on that at some point.

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        It was actually on a work computer using chrome that absolutely no one uses, I’m not even logged in on that machine nor is chrome. This happened a few days ago now, let me see if it will do it again.

        Here’s what popped up

        this is what I saw

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        It’s the birthplace of all the quality memes after all. Reddit clearly saw that as more of an opportunity rather than a risk.

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      Same. The meme overload on the /all/ sort can be kind of obnoxious but it’s so easy to block communities that it’s a minor nuisance.

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        lemmy has become much tolerable after i blocked all the meme communities.

        i also block hexbear and beehaw for separate reasons.

        The problem is - on reddit, the userbase is large enough that I can decide what I want to talk about. If i want to discuss underwater basket weaving, there will be communities talking about that. lemmy is nowhere near big enough - there’s traction on /all/ but not on the smaller communities.

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          I think we’re still a ways away from that… there’s still many technical, moderation, and social feature hurdles we need to get over.

          I’m pretty happy we’re even as lively as we are.

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            technical and moderation features are factors within the admns’ control. growth isn’t

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      I haven’t posted once since RIF was disabled. I think my account is up to 16 years now. I’ve been on a subreddit if Google brought me there, but I don’t browse anymore.

      Jerboa is pretty similar to RIF so it’s been great.

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          Going to put a plug here for Thunder. I used RedReader as my reddit app of choice and Thunder in compact mode is almost exactly the same as how i used RedReader. Love it.

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        yo, i just left Jerboa for Sync. i second the other commenter by suggesting you give Sync a shot.

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        Infinity just moved to a subscription model, so i don’t have to check anymore

        Even though I’ve already been using the Lemmy fork, Eternity, its nice to know that I’m basically never gonna have to use that god forsaken site ever again

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    I would probably still post on reddit if I could do it from my phone in an app that actually works instead of being a glorified ad platform. They killed 3rd party apps to bully users to switch to the official app to boost the usage stats to have a better angle to haggle for their IPO. Problem is that the official app is just excruciatingly painful to use if you are accustomed to a proper reddit browsing tool.

    The backhanded, sneaky way they did it with all the denial and lies was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. Instead of being upfront and calling a spade a spade, they commited to a hostile takeover and removed all doubt that reddit is going to stay a platform for the people.

    If they would have been honest from the get-go I might have continued posting.

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    Yeah I went to subredditstats.com and checked out a few of the subreddits with a lot of subscribers. They all show a huge drop both in number of comments and number of posts per day. This is the first time I saw some hard evidence that people have moved away, and it’s a lot more than I thought.