• SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    182·
    3 months ago

    Typical conservative victim complex. They’re living in another reality where they think they’d be jailed for “thinking the wrong thing.”

    I wish I could tell her: No, Rowling. You’re a bigot. Your punishment is social in nature. And as much as you pretend you don’t care or are so brave for bullying the trans community you’ll always know deep down that you’re just a disappointment to those you once inspired to be better.

    • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
      38·
      3 months ago

      I wonder how her kid she wrote the books for feels about her these days. Sadly, I’m sure since he ultimately grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth he thinks his mother loves him unconditionally and is sticking up for what she believes in, just like she taught him to do. What’s more sad though is the thought of him having friends his age—our age—my age who have woken up to the klaxon sirens of her hatred and criticize the mother who taught him all this. Again. I’m sure the reality is that the wealth he’s inheriting keeps him insulated from making friends who are harmed by all this, or are even aware of this harm, but I can imagine a world where he feels conflicted about that his mother has provided everything someone could want, and also knowing she’s horrible. I can’t imagine what it would be like to be in that situation.

      Now for speculation time. I anticipate he will never speak out one way or the other

    • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      29·
      3 months ago

      I’m pretty sure she’s currently facing up to 45,000 euros in fines and up to 5 years in jail over the whole Imane Khelif situation, if the French legislature decides that she was a party responsible for cyber bullying (and Musk as well).

      Will she ever see the inside of a cell, even if they decide to go after her? I highly doubt it, and when she said this, she definitely wasn’t in any danger of being arrested.

      But we can always dream.

      • SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        17·
        3 months ago

        Not the UK though. Too chicken shit to enforce it. Beside, they also allow for the discrimination of the trans community, they aren’t protected IIRC.

      • Mac@mander.xyz
        6·
        3 months ago

        Oh no, this poor rich woman! How will she ever afford a fine that is .00007% of her net worth?!

    • kingthrillgore@lemmy.ml
      2·
      3 months ago

      “Nobody is going to jail you for your dumbass opinions. I wish they would, because that would be hilarious to me.” I wish I could say that in her face.

  • riodoro1@lemmy.world
    82·
    3 months ago

    Can we stop giving this bitch the attention she so desperately craves?

    Can people just stop fanatically Following rich idiots?

  • takeda@lemmy.world
    58·
    3 months ago

    She is not in the threat of jail though, just there’s a possibility of losing some money.

    Feels like she is trying to play a victim and implying that freedom of speech is under attack and people are jailed for opinions, when in reality it is about hurting someone.

    • Avatar_of_Self@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      3 months ago

      Her tweet was in response to an anti-hate law (Hate Crime and Public Order Act) this year, where you could spend up to 7 years in prison for example, communicating in a way “that a reasonable person would consider to be threatening or abusive.” So, if charged in Scotland, she could go to prison.

      Though she’s rich, so probably not.

    • Mubelotix@jlai.lu
      4·
      3 months ago

      I believe it actually is for opinions, but not in a bad way. If she had something like trigger warnings, it wouldn’t hurt anyone, but it still wouldn’t be ok. It’s not about hurting someone, it’s about spreading harmful opinions

          • Glemek@lemmy.worldEnglish
            10·
            3 months ago

            Not really. They asserted a thing, to which you, I think, mostly agreed with them, but in an obtuse way. Within your own comment, how would “spreading harmful opinions” not be hurting someone? Where does the harm come from?

            It really just comes of as the OP giving a fairly reasonable statment about JKR probably not looking at jail time, and how they think she is probably cynically using that for clout. Then you come in saying you believe it isn’t that for niche not-really-addressing-their-point reasons, which is proving them wrong on the level of say sunglasses emoji, gottem.

  • Affidavit@lemm.ee
    38·
    3 months ago

    The Harry Potter series was such a prominent part of my childhood. I remember my teacher reading the books to the class as they came out. I loved every moment and eagerly looked forward to each book release. It is truly a disappointment that someone I held in such high regard has decided that making other people feel bad is how they wish to be remembered.

    JK Rowling created a magical world that has evolved and surpassed her in every way.

    • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
      21·
      3 months ago

      It’s especially frustrating because of how much it’s written to accept people who are different (as long as they aren’t fat, or a woman who speaks up, or standing against slavery and exploitation).

      • SSJMarx@lemm.eeEnglish
        6·
        3 months ago

        There’s a part of me that still resides in Hogwarts too, but damn revisiting those books as an adult and seeing all of the things I just accepted as fine when I was a kid really sucked.

        • Affidavit@lemm.ee
          1·
          3 months ago

          There are stories I greatly enjoyed as a child that I just can’t read anymore with new context.

          I remember finding out David and Leigh Eddings abused a child that ended up being removed from their care. I tried rereading their books and only a couple of chapters in there were men discussing the importance of beating a child to enforce discipline. I glossed over this as a child thinking it’s just medieval culture, but as an adult knowing that this is evidently something the authors genuinely practiced I couldn’t continue.

      • pingveno@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        3 months ago

        The fatphobia is real, but I’ve never bought the bit about the books being against Hermione’s anti-slavery stance (I assume that’s what you mean by a woman who speaks up as well). My interpretation was that Hermione was always assumed to be in the right because slavery is almost universally condemned in modern society. But she’s standing up against a system where even one of her two closest friends has been indoctrinated into it. Standing up to “others” is hard, but standing up to peer pressure is harder.

        That said, the depiction of chattel slavery is of course inaccurate. Slave revolts were common, whereas the house elves want to be subservient to humans. I guess that could be marked up to house elves being a distinct species that may have been manipulated to be subservient, but that’s never explained.

        • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
          1·
          3 months ago

          For the first part, sure you could be right. Still, once the books are over and they become adults, they don’t do anything about it. I think Hermione goes on to become the minister of magic or something, but she doesn’t try to change the system. This is presumably because Rowling thinks wanting to chang the system is childish and wrong, but that’s just a guess.

          As for the latter, no the house elves don’t all want to be slaves. We know Doby at least didn’t want to be. Just because Rowling wrote in a character after the complaints came it that is an elf who’s entire purpose is about being owned doesn’t undermine that at least some don’t. It also doesn’t even begin to discuss the indoctrination behind this and if that’s acceptable.

          The hero children also recognize the mistreatment of other intelligent magical creatures is wrong too, such as the centaurs or goblins. Again, they are made to not address this after the war, and also almost no one in the society seems to care. These themes are everywhere in the books, yet any time anyone tries to change the system they’re mocked.

          • pingveno@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            3 months ago

            Hermione got involved in house-elf welfare as an adult and was successful. I am not sure where that is covered, I think maybe Cursed Child? I don’t know much about what happens after the series is over, so I can’t speak to that in detail.

            • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
              1·
              3 months ago

              Ah, OK. Yeah, I also don’t know a whole lot about what happened, but I guess that’s better than I expected. Still, not working to change the system like you would hope with how passionately she was against it. I don’t really recall all that she does after, but just remember it wasn’t radical.

              • pingveno@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                3 months ago

                Plenty of activists, even those with radical opinions, take that approach. They have a long term goal in mind, but to get to that goal they try to make incremental changes with the power they have.

      • shani66@ani.social
        5·
        3 months ago

        The artist and the art are intrinsically intertwined. Lovecraft’s work (to use a less immediate example) has all of his fears, including racism, built into the bones of the stories. Skillet is fundamentally culty Christian types, once you understand that their more normal music takes on a creepy meaning.

        It’s possible to pull unintentional meaning from a work, we do it all the time, but that doesn’t mean the original intent should be disregarded. That idea is practically anti-art imo.

      • Default_Defect@midwest.socialEnglish
        3·
        3 months ago

        I had never seen “separate the art from the artist” so much until Joanne opened her stupid fucking mouth. Its funny to me that dropping brands for supporting bad things was so easy for people until it was Harry Potter at stake. As someone that never got into it in the first place, it kinda pissed me off.

  • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
    37·
    3 months ago

    I just don’t understand why someone would spend this much time trying to make a small group of people miserable. Doesn’t she have better things to do with her time?

    JK Rowling somehow turned into one of those weird ladies on Nextdoor who has nothing better to do.

    • SSJMarx@lemm.eeEnglish
      10·
      3 months ago

      She could end all hunger in the UK and she chooses to do this. idk if you need to have a broken brain to become rich, or if becoming rich breaks your brain, but I can’t imagine having all those resources available to me and not trying to put them to good use.

      • shani66@ani.social
        1·
        3 months ago

        It may just be easier to get rich if you’re fucked in the head already. Risk avoidance? That’s the sign of a smart person, but most ways for a poor to become a rich are far more likely to fail than succeed. Empathy? Healthy, but that’d stop you from stepping on people on the way up.

        Especially as a writer, idk about other countries but the USA’s literacy levels are abysmal (half the population reads at a 10 year old’s level or worse!), so an idiot would have the largest audience.

    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
      1·
      3 months ago

      I just don’t understand why someone would spend this much time trying to make a small group of people miserable

      She explains why here. Quite long, not very logical or convincing.

  • germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    35·
    3 months ago

    The black mold is truly rotting her brain to the point of no return.

    JK, trans people in the UK are closer to being sent to prison that you, a bigoted shitlib billionaire.

  • MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml
    31·
    3 months ago

    Spoken like a privileged ass person who knows she’s not going to jail and that the punishment will be monetary at worst. Can’t stand people like this who act hard about jail like it’s no big deal.

  • haunte@leminal.spaceEnglish
    30·
    3 months ago

    Did anyone tell her she wouldn’t be able to obsessively post her anti-trans screeds from prison? I bet she’s not so hot on the idea now.

  • gencha@lemm.ee
    27·
    3 months ago

    So she supports laws that would make transphobic views a criminal offense? Didn’t take her for such a progressive thinker.

    • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
      7·
      3 months ago

      It is not clear if she is intersex btw, the whole situation was a lot of people on both sides jumping to conclusions.

        • Blastboom Strice@mander.xyz
          8·
          3 months ago

          Lol, that might be me, almost. I knew the movies and books existed (I think I have watched one), but I kinda doubt I remembered the writer’s name. Just few years ago I made a friend who critisized the writer about her transphobic views and that’s kinda how I got to know her😅

          (I have to admit, I’m bad at watching movies/series or reading literature and just few years ago I tried to start reading literature systematically.)

        • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
          11·
          3 months ago

          There’s the Gringotts bankers being a grotesque antisemitic stereotype straight out of Nazi propaganda, there’s the racist caricature character names, there’s the fact that only one character in the entire wizarding world is against slavery and she drops the subject forever after everyone makes fun of her for it, probably other shit I’m not remembering right now…

          • index@sh.itjust.works
            3·
            3 months ago

            There’s the Gringotts bankers being a grotesque antisemitic stereotype straight out of Nazi propaganda

            If it’s like in the movies this sound like a stretch, pretty much every fantasy has something like this

            there’s the fact that only one character in the entire wizarding world is against slavery

            Isn’t dobby being freed from his slavery and help herry one of the main event in the story?

            • Hexbatch@lemmy.world
              5·
              3 months ago

              In my head canon: Dobby was killed by the author because he was the one elf to reject slavery.

        • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          5·
          3 months ago

          Normal fantasy stuff like species representing racial stereotypes and slavery (yeah I don’t get why it’s “normal” in fantasy, she also did it worse then most others)

          • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
            11·
            3 months ago

            I would go so far as to say that most fantasy works that have slavery have either a “The world is an awful place everywhere, at all times, in all things” tone, or a “Slavery is BAD” tone. Whereas Rowling went for “Aktually, the slaves are happy and you shouldn’t try to help them”

    • Hadriscus@lemm.ee
      8·
      3 months ago

      I personally assumed she already was, and I don’t actively wish happiness on people who already experience it. But that’s just me