• someguy3@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    Have you learnt nothing from Hitler and WW2? Appeasement doesn’t work.

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      9 months ago

      I agree, the USSR assumed too much good faith on the part of NATO. Millions of casualties from economic devastation later, nationalist wars are still breaking out between former soviet states, and Nazism is on the rise.

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          9 months ago

          It literally doesn’t matter who is invading who, it wouldn’t have happened without the western backed coup of soviet democracy.

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      9 months ago

      Who says anything about appeasement? That’s your words, not mine. Besides, Russia is already being appeased by NATO not letting Ukraine join.

      Why don’t NATO stop being cowards and admit Ukraine immediately? If they’re serious about “defending Europe and democracy”.

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      9 months ago

      There are other things to learn in history too, such as some countries, like Russia, simply lacking resources to fight wars this big. As the other commenter said, they can’t get past Ukraine.

      Hitler comparison is really out of place here. It’s more similar to some of the wars in Africa and Latin America.

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        9 months ago

        Notice you don’t actually address appeasement doesn’t work?

        But as for military defence alliance (notice how you tried to misportray that?): Points to cold war.

        Something tells me you’re a Putin apologist.

        You should listen to Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History. WW1 was interesting.

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          Notice you don’t actually address appeasement doesn’t work?

          Notice that I pointed out that your solution is something else that doesn’t work?

          (notice how you tried to misportray that?)

          Oh fuck off with the smug smarmy shit nobody’s impressed.

          Something tells me you’re a Putin apologist.

          Putin has justified half of what he’s done by playing the victim and whining about NATO expansion. He wants this, and you want him to have it.

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              you avoid appeasement doesn’t work again as seen by Hitler and WW2

              The fuck kind of sentence is that? I’m not even sure what you’re trying to to say. You’re awfully arrogant for a guy who can’t speak the language he’s arguing in.

              Look man, idk why you insist our only options are appeasement or provocation. Each of those led to a world war. And that’s about all I’m going to say, because you’re rambling incoherently at this point and it hurts my head to read it.

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          Notice you don’t actually address appeasement doesn’t work?

          You’re right; the world has appeased NATO and the USA for far to long.

          But as for military defence alliance (notice how you tried to misportray that?)

          This is as asinine as saying the Russian invasion of Ukraine isn’t a war of aggression because they call it “a special military operation”

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      Have you learnt nothing from anything in history other than WW2?

      Also funny how this “appeasement never works” fanaticism never applies to NATO and it’s members themselves, despite the fact that they have been BY FAR the most aggressive and belligerent powers on Earth in the past decades.