Meh. I hate trains, busses and trams. Always full of people…
I would not give up a car for that, and I only drive like 3000km a year split over two cars.
And the last time I used the aforementioned here it was a horrible nightmare of never being on schedule and costing a lot more than just driving myself. Even if I would take the “fun” car.
As I love driving, I didn’t include the car cost. It’s a hobby.
Just checked, one way trip from my city to a another city 300km afar: €180,-, so 360,- if wifey is coming with. And 720 if we want to go back home again.
Doesn’t include getting to and from the station and also not getting around at the destination.
Plus having to change trains somewhere along the track. So it’s neither relaxing nor will it be on time.
While with a car, we just drive there, listen to music, are comfortable in the temperature WE choose, don’t have people around us. And if we see something cool along the way, we stop.
So, where is an advantage of using trains? I fail to see it.
I can take the sleeper train Amsterdam-Vienna for 115 euros one way, that’s 1100km by car. 130 euros will get me on a non-sleeper train to Budapest AND back. I tried my best to find a 180 euro train ticket, but couldn’t.
So, reason you hate the train is because the trains there suck.
OK that’s a lot cheaper. Admittedly I took 1st class though (as I wouldn’t go 2nd), but 2nd class would be roughly half of it. Which is still around 350. And even if I’d go alone, by car would be half as costly. Not factoring in cost of ownership of course. Which is immense here too.
Yes German trains suck hard, but even if they had Japanese precision and would just cost 1 buck from wherever to wherever else, I would prefer the car:
I can get precisely from a to b. While a train gets me from major city station to another major city station, if lucky without changing trains in between. Then I’d need to go find a bus station or tram somewhere near there and go stand in an overcrowded horribly stinky bus/tram full of people. Or take a taxi and pay ultra premium to have to endure a chatty driver. I’m not a people-person 😁
Also, if you’d go Amsterdam Vienna for 115, that’d still he 230 for two people and 460 if you wanna go back home some day. And then you have to pay for local transit too. A car would have neglectable additional costs for added passengers and local transit.
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Meh. I hate trains, busses and trams. Always full of people… I would not give up a car for that, and I only drive like 3000km a year split over two cars.
Americans deserve the loneliness epidemic
I’m neither the one nor the other.
And the last time I used the aforementioned here it was a horrible nightmare of never being on schedule and costing a lot more than just driving myself. Even if I would take the “fun” car.
Did you include the cost of buying and maintaining a car? Or is that just fuel costs?
As I love driving, I didn’t include the car cost. It’s a hobby.
Just checked, one way trip from my city to a another city 300km afar: €180,-, so 360,- if wifey is coming with. And 720 if we want to go back home again. Doesn’t include getting to and from the station and also not getting around at the destination. Plus having to change trains somewhere along the track. So it’s neither relaxing nor will it be on time.
While with a car, we just drive there, listen to music, are comfortable in the temperature WE choose, don’t have people around us. And if we see something cool along the way, we stop.
So, where is an advantage of using trains? I fail to see it.
That’s an INSANE cost.
I can take the sleeper train Amsterdam-Vienna for 115 euros one way, that’s 1100km by car. 130 euros will get me on a non-sleeper train to Budapest AND back. I tried my best to find a 180 euro train ticket, but couldn’t.
So, reason you hate the train is because the trains there suck.
OK that’s a lot cheaper. Admittedly I took 1st class though (as I wouldn’t go 2nd), but 2nd class would be roughly half of it. Which is still around 350. And even if I’d go alone, by car would be half as costly. Not factoring in cost of ownership of course. Which is immense here too.
Yes German trains suck hard, but even if they had Japanese precision and would just cost 1 buck from wherever to wherever else, I would prefer the car:
I can get precisely from a to b. While a train gets me from major city station to another major city station, if lucky without changing trains in between. Then I’d need to go find a bus station or tram somewhere near there and go stand in an overcrowded horribly stinky bus/tram full of people. Or take a taxi and pay ultra premium to have to endure a chatty driver. I’m not a people-person 😁
Also, if you’d go Amsterdam Vienna for 115, that’d still he 230 for two people and 460 if you wanna go back home some day. And then you have to pay for local transit too. A car would have neglectable additional costs for added passengers and local transit.