Dyskolos

After re-evaluation, you’re right. We can’t. We could just define the outer walls of what we can know. No matter how hard we’d think out of the box, we can’t measure the box itself. We could create such a simulation. But being more limited beings than our creators, our creations could only be even more limited. Like an LLM. It could asses everything there is to know and calculate a theory around it. Yet it will be confined to OUR specifications and the data we let it consume.

While you’re totally right IMHO, I’d argue that the inner universe indeed can prove this. Just within the rules and boundaries of the inner universe. With our given measures and abilities. Which are or might be totally different from the outside.

Depends on the level of criminal though. Pedo-networks surely know to evade the law. See e.g. the major pedo-forum which exists for way Over a decade and is full to the brim.

I also doubt that anyone really cares about some street-level-thug. Anyone seriously slinging would surely also just ditch surface apps. If they’d even use those phones at all. I wouldn’t.

Fair points. But “just” surveillance? Anyone worth being surveiled sure wouldn’t be so dumb to use WhatsApp or other stupid crap. I’m worthless to surveillance and even I would not be possible to surveil.

Just seems weird that it’s pushed so hard. Surveillance was always a must-have, but why now? The moment it gets voted away it’s back on the table.

While he’s technically not wrong, i hate the world and where it will continue to go to.

Illogical? Chat is not just about sms-style dumb texts. It’s images and videos. Trillions of freshly taken photographs. Those are tremendously valuable. And even if it’d be just text, it’s natural training on people. But it’s also video calls, another incredibly valuable thing.

And sure, the EU has no AI to offer, hence I said “some ai billionaire” or anyone or lobby that wants that shit being pushed hard.

But as it is just a thought of a possibility I might totally be wrong. As if peasants like us would ever be allowed to know.

I had multiple possible reasons. Total surveillance is enough already, the recent aggressive pushing hints towards another added goal.

You’re free to offer YOUR insight. I don’t even hate AI. I like it.

I would bet my right nut on the real reason for all this is some AI-billionaire who aggressively pushes this with moneyz. Having every fart we make soon be analyzed by AI is the best “natural” training there could be.

As a cherry on top is the total surveillance for the state(s). AI will probably do a decent job (despite what the article says) in scanning for potential “threats” to let actual people check.

But I can’t even comprehend the power that would be needed to actually scan every shit by every person every minute. No data center in the world has this oomph. So it has to be a simple keyword-search (in all possible languages, even leetspeek and co?) To forward to ai. And if ai would just report 0.5% as “suspicious” for manual human control, it would be more supermassive than a black hole. This is just not doable and hence defeats it’s fake reason: protecting the kids.

So that kinda just leaves ai-training and selective easy surveillances without court-orders. Which also won’t protect kids. As every criminal out there will find a loophole.

It is the point. It should be a won war not just a won battle. And I, personally, am already preparing for the final loss. Which is inevitable IMHO.

Ja, mein Fehler. Manchmal bin ich einfach zu naiv…

Nette Punkte, maybe. Aber für Frauen? Kameras? Das ist doch das gleiche scheinargument wie “für die Kinder!” Bei der chatkontrolle. Kann man toll verkaufen, ist aber eigentlich für was ganz anderes gedacht.

Ich hasse es, wenn man tatsächliche Probleme - die offenbar auch bekannt sind - vorschiebt um eine gänzlich andere Agenda zu pushen. Widerlich. Das erwarte ich von Politikern als allerletzter Personengruppe. Zumindest in meiner utopischen Traumwelt.

Dude. It’s the USA. Those people will simply starve then. Problem solves itself. Like magic, but without work!

Guessing you either didn’t actually have a real HDR monitor, or just didn’t realise it shouldn’t look like what it did.

Yeah, me being technologically challenged is probably it. Dude, I retired around 25 because of tech. Besides, if you ever toggled HDR while having 5 monitors attached, you’d think hard if it would be REALLY needed right now 😁

On device or in cloud, you have privacy settings that control it.

Sorry, I just don’t have that level of naiveté. A US-company pumping billions into AI and not use our data for anything? That is why they already gather that much, even without LLMs? Half of my firewall-rules are for MS, so little do they phone home 😁

But at least only one windows machine will be problematic, my others are win-server, they won’t get this crap. So no worries for me anyway.

Wenn es doch wenigstens TATSÄCHLICH um die kids ginge. Aber die jucken einen scheiß. Da gäbe es erheblich mehr andere Orte wo dringend was getan werden müsste, wenn kids wahrlich die Motivation wären.

Wie z.b. die Verjährung von SM in der Kindheit. Wo der durchnittlich missbrauchte so ungefähr genau diese Zeit braucht um evtl. bereit zu einer klage zu sein.

Hier geht’s einzig um Kontrolle, steht doch wenigstens dazu ihr dreckigen Heuchler.

Stop whining about censorship, stop using media that is controlled by so few people. It’s that simple.

It’s like putting my hand in a crocs mouth and trusting it to not bite.

Ja aber doch nur in einem sozialen, zivilisierten und gerechten Staat. Aber hier geht es doch um Deutschland :-)

“Was die Lebensmittel im Moment so teuer macht, sind vor allem zwei Faktoren. Zum einen die gestiegenen Energiepreise. Viele Lebensmittel werden sehr energieintensiv hergestellt und das hat dann eine direkte Auswirkung auf die Preise”, erklärt Nickel die Ergebnisse der Studie.

Ach hört doch auf uns diesen scheiss zu verkaufen. Es ist die Gier. Der Kreislauf der Gier.

Ja und weil all die rein islamischen Länder soooo toll sind, sind diese Mentalgymnasten auch hier und wollen in Deutschland die sharia. Und nachdem sie das geschafft haben will keiner mehr hier leben 😁

In a situation where performance isn’t required but absolute zero overhead is paramount, this is a perfect sort. Depends on the data itself though. Lots of small numbers maybe multiply each by 10 or 20, lots of big numbers…well…bad luck.

Seriously? Because not everything supports HDR lol

I never switched it off and never had problems in any content. Weird 😊

If you know the keyboard shortcut, sure. With a mouse how do you do it in a second while you’re in a game?

It’d be not the wisest move to toggle it while in a game. And maybe I’d need two seconds, possibly even three or four. A worthy price for privacy in my book

Great! So there we have it, you recognise that you were wrong. We got there in the end, hooray!

Nonsense. I said from the beginning there are niche-usecases. Those don’t invalidate all arguments per se

MS" don’t have to, just copilot on your device, without any feedback to MS.

And here’s where you’re seriously wrong. It might be local only for simple things like file-search (doesn’t mean your voice-data isn’t sent for “performance and quality assurance” reasons). Most stuff is or will, obviously, be cloud-based. They wouldn’t put billions into that just so that regular Joe from accounting can open office faster. They do it for profit

“MS” don’t have to, just copilot on your device, without any feedback to MS.

Yeah sure. Some features are local only. IF you have a compatible NPU in your machine. If not then it’ll be cloud too. The data on what is local only is freely accessible.

AI can already interact with third party products

Some ai with some 3rd party products. Surely never all with everything. Also we’re talking about copilot only.