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tumblr post by seokoilua: it’s so wild to me that some people just speak english all the time… like they can’t switch it off to speak in a #real language when they need to

  • glizzyguzzler@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    9 hours ago

    I cannot understand this of course, I never figured out the shortcut to switch the language, but I read this anyway and spotted “pga” and “dvs” - they real …Norwegian…? (I saw Norsk a lot) words? You can respond in whatever language this is if you wish, I will surely understand it by the time you do.

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      I was just ranting about how much of a hard time native English speakers are given when it’s next to impossible to actually practice conversation.

      Let’s say you have a German speaker learning English and an English speaker learning German. A Frenchman, a Spaniard, a Korean, an Austrian and an Australian walk in. The German uses English with 4 people and the English speaker uses German with none of them, because as soon as the Austrian hears them struggling with German they’ll instinctively switch to English. My own biggest challenge learning Norwegian was convincing the people I met not to switch to English and keep speaking Norwegian, even though it would have been easier for them.

      I also made the point that the only way learning a foreign language is even close to a necessity is if you move to another country. And its also the only real way to get enough people to practice with.

      Pga = På grunn av = because of Dvs = Det vil si = in other words

      • frank@sopuli.xyz
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        I agree with everything you said! I’m learning danish as a native English speaker, and I find the same struggles (also enjoyed slowly reading your Norsk)

        I think a part of it is Scandinavian people being a little polite/power dynamic sensitive and switching to English for good intentioned reasons. But also, let me speak poor danish, it’ll be better for all of us in the long run!

      • glizzyguzzler@piefed.blahaj.zone
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        8 hours ago

        Oo abbreviations hell yeah!

        I did see you brought in the Franks (French), the Portuguese, and the good people of Tyskland (Germany apparently) in your orig! Kudos on learning Norwegian so well

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        [removed minor grammar nitpicks]

        It’s absolutely the difficulty I faced learning French as an American in the Midwest. My high school self thought it’d be more useful than Spanish because native English speakers who know French are more rare, but it also meant I never got immersion, even when I’d do my best to converse every chance I got.

        • Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world
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          Thanks for pointing that out. I tend to miss things due to dyslexia/ADHD. Either it’s a correctly spelled word, but the wrong one so spellcheck doesn’t catch it or I start writing a sentence and change how I want to word it half way through but forget to go back and edit the first part.

          French was actually spoken by a large number of Brits until English replaced it as the common language in Europe, after ww2. My grandparents were all conversationally fluent in french.

    • Dagge@lemmy.world
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      I guess it’s the same in Norwegian as in Swedish, pga is an abbreviation for “på grund av” which means “because of” and dvs is an abbreviation for “det vill säga” which translates to “so to say”, someone is more than welcome to correct me on this, I had a difficult time to come up with the translation at this time xD