Well, as a leftists I think its just extra disappointing. Like I’m not a syndicalist or anarchist, he wasnt my guy, but he was a left voice. He was critical of imperialism and shined a light on corruption and injustice.
Like when Chris Tucker appeared in flight logs its like, “oh the comedian? Weird,” and maybe if I was a comedian I’d feel different. But CT also denied any actual associations. Chomsky’s just like “yeah he’s my friend, its none of your business” honesty is a virtue and all that, but the way he has attacked and criticized other leftists over the years, to see him defend this literal avatar of abuse, corruption and imperialism, is quite revealing.
But my personal orientation toward Norm hasn’t changed much. I had read a couple of his books but he’s kind of meh imo. Obviously a very hard working and prolific academic, though academics can be disappointing from a leftist perspective. I doubt he had much time or interest to engage in the kinds of abuse that made Epstein notorious.
I think Norm knew about the abuse and corruption, and definitely about his role in geopolitics. And maybe Epstein helped him out once personally in a way that deeply affected him. People are complicated, and Chomsky’s loyalty is maybe admirable, though such circumstances are speculation. But if I found out my best friend was hanging out with Jamie Dimon, Donald Trump, and Alan Dershowitz, as well as a cavalcade of notorious villains and literal monsters, that he had created a global network of underaged women who he exploited for sex 3 or more times per day, literally anything that we’ve found out about JE, I would cut them off immediately. And if I found out a different friend was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein and was unrepentant, I’d cut them off too. That’s all I need. The association is bad enough that I dont need further evidence, personally.
Is there a link to Chomsky commenting on any of this? I’m simply stunned. And I know the monster Epstein collected public figures and I agree that being collected by him is damning. But I’d still like to hear what Chomsky has to say about the image. Like… anything?
Here is a video of Chomsky from 2020, before the connection between JE and Chomsky had been revealed. He gets a little indignant and defensive about Epstein, interesting flavor info.
Chomsky, 96, had also reportedly acknowledged receiving about $270,000 from an account linked to Epstein while sorting the disbursement of common funds relating to the first of his two marriages, though the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) professor has insisted not “one penny” came directly from the infamous financier.
The banality of evil: how Epstein’s powerful friends normalised him
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The emails disclosed on 12 November by the Republican members of the US House oversight committee generally detailed the correspondence Epstein had with political, academic and business luminaries, including the Bill Clinton White House’s treasury secretary Larry Summers and Steve Bannon, the longtime ally of Donald Trump. Further, they reveal Epstein and Chomsky were close enough to discuss musical interests and even potential vacations.
Perhaps the most telling of the Chomsky-related documents in question was a letter of support for Epstein attributed to Chomsky with the salutation “to whom it may concern”. It is not dated, but it contains a typed signature with Chomsky’s name and citing his position as a University of Arizona laureate professor, a role he began in 2017, as first reported by the Massachusetts news outlet WBUR.
Here is a video of Chomsky from 2020, before the connection between JE and Chomsky had been revealed. He gets a little indignant and defensive about Epstein, interesting flavor info.
Did you maybe forget to paste the link for this? I’m assuming it’s probably this one, but if there’s another I’d like to see it. In this one, Chomsky first defends Epstein (and his own relationship with Epstein) by citing how it’s a foundational tenant of western law that a person who has “served their sentence” is then absolved or “the same as everybody else” as Chomsky puts it. Which is amusing in itself coming from someone who supposedly is such a critic of how asymmetrically that law punishes the weak and powerless vs the rich and powerful. He then does an actual whataboutism by basically saying “well David Koch was even worse, and he also gave money to MIT where I worked. Did anybody say anything about that?” Ok then, Noam, would you go have brunch with Koch on his private jet too, or are you saying that’s where you draw the line? I wish the interviewer, who was obviously dissatisfied with his answers had been less deferential to Chomsky.
But if I found out my best friend was hanging out with Jamie Dimon, Donald Trump, and Alan Dershowitz, as well as a cavalcade of notorious villains and literal monsters
I was surprised to learn how close Epstein and Steve Bannon were. Not at all surprised by the connection, but if you read the ongoing conversations they had, they were like a couple of teens gossiping with each other over the phone every night. I do wonder exactly how aware he was that his good buddy Epstein was besties with, as you said, notorious villians and literal monsters (like would Chomsky still be ok if Epstein had been good friends with David Koch for example?), but I doubt Chomsky was as in the dark about it as his fans would like to think. He was aware that Epstein had at least in the past, if not currently was outright human-trafficking children for SA on his private island, but apparently he did his time, and that makes him “the same as everybody else.”
It really is an illuminating example of how interconnected so many of the so-called elite really are, even those whose public personas would make us think they could be nothing but bitter enemies. My personal vibes-based belief is that it’s a soft form of class solidarity.
I just assume anyone I see on TV or in the mainstream, is an intelligence agent. You never see a single person on TV that isnt completely insane. The first time I heard that guy speak, I knew he was a spook. They would never allow someone who wasn’t a spook to speak about politics or war or whatever on the news media.
There were some good journalists, but I’m not even sure if there is a single place in the world that an actual journalist could be safe. These days it’s usually the cops going after journalists and stuff on Trumped up charges like we are living in Russia or something.
Well, as a leftists I think its just extra disappointing. Like I’m not a syndicalist or anarchist, he wasnt my guy, but he was a left voice. He was critical of imperialism and shined a light on corruption and injustice.
Like when Chris Tucker appeared in flight logs its like, “oh the comedian? Weird,” and maybe if I was a comedian I’d feel different. But CT also denied any actual associations. Chomsky’s just like “yeah he’s my friend, its none of your business” honesty is a virtue and all that, but the way he has attacked and criticized other leftists over the years, to see him defend this literal avatar of abuse, corruption and imperialism, is quite revealing.
But my personal orientation toward Norm hasn’t changed much. I had read a couple of his books but he’s kind of meh imo. Obviously a very hard working and prolific academic, though academics can be disappointing from a leftist perspective. I doubt he had much time or interest to engage in the kinds of abuse that made Epstein notorious.
I think Norm knew about the abuse and corruption, and definitely about his role in geopolitics. And maybe Epstein helped him out once personally in a way that deeply affected him. People are complicated, and Chomsky’s loyalty is maybe admirable, though such circumstances are speculation. But if I found out my best friend was hanging out with Jamie Dimon, Donald Trump, and Alan Dershowitz, as well as a cavalcade of notorious villains and literal monsters, that he had created a global network of underaged women who he exploited for sex 3 or more times per day, literally anything that we’ve found out about JE, I would cut them off immediately. And if I found out a different friend was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein and was unrepentant, I’d cut them off too. That’s all I need. The association is bad enough that I dont need further evidence, personally.
Is there a link to Chomsky commenting on any of this? I’m simply stunned. And I know the monster Epstein collected public figures and I agree that being collected by him is damning. But I’d still like to hear what Chomsky has to say about the image. Like… anything?
Here is a video of Chomsky from 2020, before the connection between JE and Chomsky had been revealed. He gets a little indignant and defensive about Epstein, interesting flavor info.
Heres the business insider article from 2023 https://www.businessinsider.com/noam-chomsky-mit-wsj-wall-street-journal-jeffrey-epstein-2023-4
And then you have the latest revelations https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/22/noam-chomsky-jeffrey-epstein-ties-emails
The banality of evil: how Epstein’s powerful friends normalised him Read more The emails disclosed on 12 November by the Republican members of the US House oversight committee generally detailed the correspondence Epstein had with political, academic and business luminaries, including the Bill Clinton White House’s treasury secretary Larry Summers and Steve Bannon, the longtime ally of Donald Trump. Further, they reveal Epstein and Chomsky were close enough to discuss musical interests and even potential vacations.
Perhaps the most telling of the Chomsky-related documents in question was a letter of support for Epstein attributed to Chomsky with the salutation “to whom it may concern”. It is not dated, but it contains a typed signature with Chomsky’s name and citing his position as a University of Arizona laureate professor, a role he began in 2017, as first reported by the Massachusetts news outlet WBUR.
My day is just wrecked.
Chomsky was the last person I believed in.
I don’t believe he diddled… but his descriptions of hanging out with Epstein turn my stomach.
Happy Christmas Eve.
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Did you maybe forget to paste the link for this? I’m assuming it’s probably this one, but if there’s another I’d like to see it. In this one, Chomsky first defends Epstein (and his own relationship with Epstein) by citing how it’s a foundational tenant of western law that a person who has “served their sentence” is then absolved or “the same as everybody else” as Chomsky puts it. Which is amusing in itself coming from someone who supposedly is such a critic of how asymmetrically that law punishes the weak and powerless vs the rich and powerful. He then does an actual whataboutism by basically saying “well David Koch was even worse, and he also gave money to MIT where I worked. Did anybody say anything about that?” Ok then, Noam, would you go have brunch with Koch on his private jet too, or are you saying that’s where you draw the line? I wish the interviewer, who was obviously dissatisfied with his answers had been less deferential to Chomsky.
I was surprised to learn how close Epstein and Steve Bannon were. Not at all surprised by the connection, but if you read the ongoing conversations they had, they were like a couple of teens gossiping with each other over the phone every night. I do wonder exactly how aware he was that his good buddy Epstein was besties with, as you said, notorious villians and literal monsters (like would Chomsky still be ok if Epstein had been good friends with David Koch for example?), but I doubt Chomsky was as in the dark about it as his fans would like to think. He was aware that Epstein had at least in the past, if not currently was outright human-trafficking children for SA on his private island, but apparently he did his time, and that makes him “the same as everybody else.”
It really is an illuminating example of how interconnected so many of the so-called elite really are, even those whose public personas would make us think they could be nothing but bitter enemies. My personal vibes-based belief is that it’s a soft form of class solidarity.
I just assume anyone I see on TV or in the mainstream, is an intelligence agent. You never see a single person on TV that isnt completely insane. The first time I heard that guy speak, I knew he was a spook. They would never allow someone who wasn’t a spook to speak about politics or war or whatever on the news media.
There were some good journalists, but I’m not even sure if there is a single place in the world that an actual journalist could be safe. These days it’s usually the cops going after journalists and stuff on Trumped up charges like we are living in Russia or something.
It reminds me of this old Chomsky video https://m.youtube.com/shorts/AnFUWrjr25A
“I’m sure you believe what you are saying but if you believed something different you wouldnt be sitting here.”
Really calling the kettle on this