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    2 days ago

    People can hate both. For example, we can hate both Musk for being a democracy hating piece of shit AND the system that enabled him and his like to buy an election. Using a blanket term like that catches all within said game, just to be clear

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      See and I disagree. Musk is a piece of shit yes but he’s merely playing the game better for a large variety of reasons.

      My point being, the game is not the problem. The problem is assholes. This happens in capitalism. It happens in communism. It happens everywhere. The problem is not the system the problem is assholes.

      Adam Smith would be rolling in his grave if he saw what became of capitalism.

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        That’s a rather poor attempt at unironically moralising someone’s lack of morals. I or anyone else could simply declare anything to be “the game” and justify any action through that. Can you not see?

        Communism has never actually existed. What we’ve had is fascism with red trim and American propaganda, used to justify their empire and imperial wars.

        Capitalism is working exactly as intended. It’s the asset rich, self entitled, slaver/coloniser and workshy attitude of the European aristocracy, expressed in economic form. There’s a reason they dont teach the actual origin of capitalism in school (because to teach it is to critique capitalism and critiquing capitalism is illegal in our western schools) and have to tell a fairytale instead. The idea that a truly free and fair market could ever exist is more utopian than anything you’ll ever hear from any socialist.

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          2 days ago

          Learn what fascism actually is. It’s not just a synonym for “thing I don’t like”

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            Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian political ideology emphasizing extreme nationalism, a strong central state, militarism, and the subordination of individual rights to the nation’s perceived unity and strength, often led by a dictator. It emerged in early 20th-century Europe.

            Sorry that you can’t make communism and fascism interchangeable.

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                It just described what they had in the soviet union though…

                Can you name the differences or is it just that it “feels kinda commie” to you?

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                    Yes it was, learn what communism is. You can’t just label things you don’t like as communism.

                    Don’t just declare it to be different, grow a spine and demonstrate the difference as you were asked or do one.