If you’re talking about “AppCloud” here, I already deleted that through Canta a while ago
Hello from GrapheneOS 👋
Tech savvy Lemmings don’t need SwapMyOS, but for more non-technical folk, it’s there just in case by demand.
AMA.
I wish I could install GrapheneOS on my Samsung… fuck it. I cannot wait for this shit to be paid off and I can get a GrapheneOS compatible phone.
Fuck Samsung to hell.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but GrapheneOS is designed to prevent users from gaining root (admin) privileges. Consequently, even if the device is compromised, you will never be aware of it. I don’t care about the moronic reasons behind this; this is my device, and it should be under my control.
I really dont know what you mean. I rooted my samsung s23 and I can turn the sensors off.
Bad headline
Hey I’m from middle east and yes I know about this, ironSource is an Israeli company, I personally don’t mind where its from but the fact that it collects user data is not so nice. I use Galaxy A53 and I slapped a GSI on it, I am using a degoogled version of android 16 and away from Samsung stuff been daily driving it for 5 months now works great, calls working, SMS works, camera works, NFC works, bank apps do not work. Thats it
The software in question, AppCloud, developed by the mobile analytics firm IronSource, has been embedded in devices sold primarily in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region.
So if you’re not in the Middle East. You’re good. Still not going to buy any Samsung devices.
Don’t buy any Samsung devices, got it.
But what options are there for non tech savvy people. Apple isn’t any better.
Pixels are just bad hardware. 3 models got software updates that destroy battery life and more issues. No DAC ever worked properly on my 6a. They did gave me $100 for replacing the battery but I bought an s25. The Samsung has great hardware, software is less good than the pixel.
OnePlus, Pixel, Sony, Sharp.
Pixel? By google? I can’t imagine they aren’t collecting a ton of data on users. It’s thier whole business model. I don’t know about the others, but by including the pixel I am dubious if the others are any better than samsung.
Fairphone or a Google Pixle (optional GraphenOS, ive had non-tech people install it with no issues)
Yah, thats why you slap GraphenOS on it before it leaves the lot. All phones spy on you of you dont gut the OS, because there is nothing left that hasent been enshitified.
Right now, GraphenOS requires a pixle due to hardware limitations. Some time next year they are planning on testing Snapdragon support which will greatly expand the number of phones that can use it.
I’ve got a Motorola, it probably still has spyware but at least it’s cheap, durable, and has a decent battery.
I have yet to purchase a Samsung mobile phone and I will do my best to keep it that way.
I made the mistake one time. Idk why people speak so highly of them. What is wrong with them?
It got forced updates at Random hours of the day with no even pretend consent of “Not right now. I’m literally on a phone call”. All the update was to install Candy crush or Facebook. Again
I literally lost out on a job because it shut off to update while I was on a phone interview. Called back and the guy was rude af.
Did you get the phone from a carrier? I’ve had 2 Samsung’s both bought unlocked from samsung and those come with no bloatware and for years I never had anything like that happen. My wife has an S23 from TMobile and has lots of unremovable apps and bloat.
I’ve heard that, and I did, but I’ve a google now from a carrier, and I do not have this issue on my google device. Not one update to put crap on it so far. Fingers crossed
It can’t just be a carrier issue.
This is Israeli spyware.
They own you.
Zionist Spyware
Funny how they never mention where this comes from… The bullshit propaganda is strong in this article.
TIL Unity owns ironsource.
Its always the Zionists they see land, life, freedom, and people as something to be bought and sold.
I hope that we someday have a Linux-based Steam Whistle from Valve, so that we have a phone that is actually ours.
I hope that one day we fix our bullshit and stop relying on corporations to save us. This should should be regulated to hell and back by representatives and their teams who are at worst just mediocre at their jobs.
While we’re dreaming and all that I’m gunna high ball it.
Let’s not wait. Let’s collectively ask Valve to make that next
I’d absolutely move to a steam machine in my pocket.
Gaben deserves a 14th yacht if he makes this ;)
With the past decades or so a phone has become a standard piece of equipment where it’s virtually used everywhere, anytime. It is a complete disaster that those standards are not applied to what’s deemed under the hood - all these companies are deemed to do anything they want to because nothing is standard.
Look where that got us - a duopoly where going against them is deemed “inescapable”. It is disappointing how we even let this happen in the first place, the capitalists and fascists basically own us because of it.
All that got us is a standard thing tacked together by mystery tape and glue - hardware & software. Open source software and standards have barely any say here just because the fascists in rule decided so.
I’ve tried living without a mobile phone.
It makes life needlessly difficult. Doing anything requires getting through layers of “why don’t you have a phone”
I looked into getting a landline installed in my home. The guy at the phone store said land lines aren’t a thing anymore and showed me the fucking modem they’d be using for my “land line”
Something is deeply wrong.
I mean here you can still get an LTE box and connect old phones to them. Or ooma which is voip
I hate galaxy phones, they’re build quality is so shitty and the prices are higher than a google pixel. Now they come with Israeli spyware? What other phones have spyware that I should know about?
I can’t imagine the pixel is much better. I think the question you have should be inverted. What doesn’t have spyware…
I believe the FairPhone is pretty solid.
Not as good, but Apple stuff is a big step up from Google and Samsung stuff wrt spying.
How is it on easy of use for the non-techies? And compatability of apps?
When my Graphene’d Pixel 7 goes out of support I’m switching to something Linux based even if I have to get a Raspberry Pi and a case and carry around a brick. My handbag’s big enough.
I REALLY wanted to do a pi phone, and while it’s very possible to make a working phone/tablet out of one, their power consumption is absolutely awful. Most of the linux capable SBC’s can’t do low power.
I want an 8" linux touch screen with 18h of moderate usage batter life, I’m even willing to carry around a separate 4g access point.
I found this. Its a Raspberry Pi in a brick case with a screen and a 4G modem.
Kinda funny that for all the downsides, the one that made me say oof was resistive touch.
Resistive pretty much requires a stylus to be usable with any accuracy. It’s like going back to '90s era PDAs.
Furi’s FLX1s seems like a valid alternative.
CM5s have 16GB of ram, some people might be building a postmarket os port for it too. Just need someone to design phone hardware for it.
We need new OEM’s made. Seriously we can’t keep going like this. Any other good alternatives?
Problem is that Samsung is like Apple- a shitton of people just blindly buy the latest Samsung whatever with zero research.
So you have a bunch of other companies trying to stand out in one way or another- Motorola for example just released a phone that brings back the 3.5mm headphone jack. And you have a ton of cheap Chinese companies that may or may not offer any software support after purchase but have interesting form factors.That makes it hard for the little guys to get the kind of sales volume needed to justify the development and tooling for a really cool flagship phone.
Personally while phones today are far more capable, I think phone designs peaked in the mid 2000s. Mainly because you had actual innovation in design– wildly different form factors. There were a few phones that flipped open like a laptop with a physical keyboard, a handful that slid open to reveal a blackberry-style keyboard, many had SDIO ports or other ability to clip on expansion modules, etc. Phones had fun features- there was one that could do an early ‘google pay’ type thing by pulsing a magnetic field to pretend to be a magnetic credit card stripe for a swipe reader. A lot of the early Samsung phones had IR blasters so you could turn TVs on and off. There were a couple designed for gaming that were laid out like a game pad. Manufacturers weren’t afraid to experiment and the result was some really cool stuff.
Sadly that’s all gone today. HTC (which made many of those cool phones) was driven out of the market by Apple and Samsung, so now virtually all phones are identical flat bricks.
I see a glimmer of hope with flip phones and foldables, but not much. They’re all just excuses toSo in a way its more educating people on better options rather than brand loyalty for an inferior product, hige various marketing to get smaller competitors to be seen, and those products sound awesome so innovations like that would pair well with marketing pushes (Community assistance would go a long way for marketimg).
Will look into the ones you suggested thanks
There is a reason quartebacks don’t return kicks and linebackers dont play wide receiver. They followed their natural genetic build and skillset to become the best at what they are built to do.
Samsung has been a fuckin train wreck with every single piece of fuckin software they touch. They used to make amazing hardware products and I was their #1 fan 20 years ago. Then they started embedding software in every cunthole they can shove their tiny dicks into.
First I stopped buying their TV because the volume button on the remotes hat an embedded feature that when pressed down/in instead of up or down (like the sticks on video game contorll3rs) it backed you out of fuckin everything and launched the fuckin atrocious built in samsung broadcasted tv. Signed into hulu/netflix/disney/xbox/fuck even if your just listening to music and the tv is on sleep mode… NOPE FUCK YOU AND FUCK WHATEVER YOU ARE DOING WERE SIGNING YOU OUT OF FUCKIN EVERYTHING AND BUTTFUCKING OUR BROADCAST SERVICE OF CHANNELS CABLE COMPANIES CANT EVEN MAKE A DIME FROM. Not cable, not anything you plug in or choose. No it takes you to a tv service which broadcasts only shows that noone will pay to watch.
Then it was laptops but i dont remember why it might of just been residual pissed off-ness from the TV.
Now about to be my fuckin ZFold-5 that AGAIN is the best piece of mobile hardware ive ever owned. Indestructible, blazing fast processing power that is only slower than my blazing fast typing speed with full qwerty keyboards like the good Ole cellphone days, beautiful display, beautiful cameras. It really is my favorite thing that someone else has ever ruined.
They just facefuck shitty software onto of shitty software into everything they can. I MEAN PERFECT EXAMPLE AND TIME TO STOP WAS WHEN EVERYONE SAID FUCK YOU TO THEM MAKING FUCKBOOK A BUILT IN APP. Fuck samsung right in their fucking fuck hole.
I had an A5 a while back and samsung didn’t make me hate them so the next phone I got was an s10. On that phone, they decided that they needed to dedicate a physical button to their fucking virtual assistant bixby. It was pretty obvious to me that these virtual assistants were mostly actually data vacuums, wanting to integrate into every aspect of your life so they can access better data on all those aspects.
Every single time it opened that fucking thing, it was unintentional. It wasn’t as annoying as your TV, since I bet the phone was way faster and had enough memory to not have to discard whatever else you were doing just to open its app, but it exemplifies how I see samsung today. Hardware had great specs but the software made it annoying by trying to lock everything in to their ecosystem without a hard lock like apple. Even MS had ways of disabling the windows button (which used to have a high chance of crashing a game if you accidentally hit it).
Yeah, I’m angry at them too.
I’m a pretty big fan of using fuck, but holy fuck, that was a lot. I wonder why you feel that passionately about it?
I deleted my Samsung account when an update about 6 months ago came along that basically wanted ALL your personal data so you could use AI for photo search, etc. Then I found out about all the other minor things they insist you have an account to use. So, yeah, Fuck Samsung! Now I need to find a phone I can live with to replace it when it stops working.
Wow, I can really feel the emotion, all that rage.
Now tell us how you really feel… actually, maybe don’t. :) (so you don’t get banned. Lol)
This, normally, is where I Sssssssssssssssssssssssssssstaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrttttttttttt inhaling deeply, while glaring maniacally down my nose at my audience of toddler aged nieces and nephews all taking cover from th3 eruption they knows coming🤓🤯🤠🫤😨🥹😱
But naaaaaaaa this is the waaay more laid mat me who only twitches their eyelids while grinding my teeth when someone tells me to simmer down🤣
Edit: seeeeeeeee i was guna Edit the typos out of my reply but I decided fuck it, not laid back me, no way ill tell you. So now my toilet seat is covered in pee cuz this was a two handed edit on the zfold’s big qwerty keyboards while playing piss accuracy by ear.
I do look forward to the day that I can have a phone that unfolds into a tablet size. I have two devices because my old ass has trouble reading and typing on a phone. But that is going to take an extra dimension of folding.
I once saw someone get an ad for the new phone as a notification on their current one. They had never had a notification from Samsung like that before. At that point I knew they would build in advertising for all their other products in to the products.
I have never bought a Samsung device since. Some people I know live them, but it put me off so much.
This was a super fun, and colorful read, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Hahahaha
Not to mention that I agree with everything said.
I like how he rages himself into a stroke in the first sentence of the last paragraph.
Your post kind of reminds me of this. (YT link fwiw)
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Samsung Fold this 👊🏼
I agree with what you said outside of their flagship smartphones. My Fold3 was fantastic all the up till the point I traded it in for a Fold6 so if you don’t mind, could you explain what they did to your Fold5 because I don’t see any example mentioned of how they managed to ruin it over time?















