• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    2 hours ago

    The soviet union began tinkering with the ideas of cybernetics, though they never managed to fully implement it. Cybersyn went farther, but it wasn’t the first attempt. Secondly, I have no idea what you mean by “anti-authoritarian Marxists,” Marxists analyze authority by its class character and not as something that can be universally opposed.

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      I know you have trouble grasping the concept of authority. That’s like… your whole deal. Just imagine being a Marxist without all the vanguard party and replacing the bourgeoisie with a class of bureaucrats bullshit.

      Cybersyn can’t have been centrally planned btw, as central planning violates Ashby’s Law of Requisite Variety.

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        1 hour ago

        I don’t have trouble grasping the concept of authority, I adhere to the Marxist analysis of it. Vanguards replacing capitalist dictatorships of the bourgeoisie with socialist states is a good thing, and has led to dramatic improvements in the lives of billions of working people.

        Cybersyn was centrally planned, input from the bottom was fed to higher rungs that returned with advice and decisions.