It’s not about “taking the assholes out”. It’s about showing the Israeli government officials, and the constituents who are actually able to pressure those officials and exert collective power, that you can’t just indiscriminately murder people without inciting the exact same violence onto your own people. As long as bombs are falling, why should they be contained to the side that is completely powerless to stop them?
This is the first legit response I’ve received thus far, so I want to thank you for that.
You make a good point - one I can kind of get behind. My initial comment, however, was in response to the idea of using nuclear weapons on them - that’s far too indiscriminate a weapon to be using, and one that will have lasting effects that spread beyond Israel. Nuclear fallout won’t stop at Palestinian borders, for example.
I don’t think nukes (re: literally triggering armageddon) would ever seriously be on the table so I don’t really care to argue that point either way. It’s satire, I took it as hyperbole.
Yeah, I know. My first comment was a joke about two wrongs not making a right, just a right-wing - but then things went off the rail when someone asked what the second wrong was & I made the mistake of replying.
Agreed. How anyone can still stand the stench of Netanyahu - let alone continue to back him - is beyond me. It blows my mind that it’s taken this long for any even vaguely serious action against them to happen.
The war machine generates power and wealth by wreaking devastation onto far away lands, then uses that power and wealth to create more war. Netanyahu is and has always been powerless without the international community enabling him. Israel and its colonial project are wholly western inventions. The western nations backing Israel wouldn’t suddenly shut it down now that it is executing its intended purpose while also absorbing most if not all of the generated backlash. Not without major resistance.
But even those countries who aren’t likely profiting from it have been rather muted in their reactions. It’s rather disappointing. Only their nearby middle eastern neighbors have really had anything significant in terms of response up until recently.
The people who stand to lose the most in a situation will always act with the highest clarity and urgency. It’s true in general that we must save ourselves and can’t expect the ruling classes of other nations to step in to stop even the highest crime against humanity.
At the end of the day, the global ruling class is self-interested and only acts against that when there comes to be very few alternatives. That said, the discontent around the world is growing and it’s only a matter of time until it reaches a tipping point.
As for the non-west, nobody wants to start a war or draw the ire of the west without having much capacity to change what is happening. That’s my speculative opinion, at least. At this point I’d ask someone more knowledgeable on global politics to chime in.
I’ve no idea how strong North Korean nukes are, but I’d be surprised if they weren’t significantly more powerful than those used on Japan.
Besides, as repressed as the truly Orthodox Jews come off to me… there’s probably plenty of what you’re after already. Nuking them might make glow-in-the-dark femboys, tho, so there’s that…
It’s not about “taking the assholes out”. It’s about showing the Israeli government officials, and the constituents who are actually able to pressure those officials and exert collective power, that you can’t just indiscriminately murder people without inciting the exact same violence onto your own people. As long as bombs are falling, why should they be contained to the side that is completely powerless to stop them?
This is the first legit response I’ve received thus far, so I want to thank you for that.
You make a good point - one I can kind of get behind. My initial comment, however, was in response to the idea of using nuclear weapons on them - that’s far too indiscriminate a weapon to be using, and one that will have lasting effects that spread beyond Israel. Nuclear fallout won’t stop at Palestinian borders, for example.
I don’t think nukes (re: literally triggering armageddon) would ever seriously be on the table so I don’t really care to argue that point either way. It’s satire, I took it as hyperbole.
Yeah, I know. My first comment was a joke about two wrongs not making a right, just a right-wing - but then things went off the rail when someone asked what the second wrong was & I made the mistake of replying.
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It’s a touchy subject. Pretty understandably, I might add.
Agreed. How anyone can still stand the stench of Netanyahu - let alone continue to back him - is beyond me. It blows my mind that it’s taken this long for any even vaguely serious action against them to happen.
The war machine generates power and wealth by wreaking devastation onto far away lands, then uses that power and wealth to create more war. Netanyahu is and has always been powerless without the international community enabling him. Israel and its colonial project are wholly western inventions. The western nations backing Israel wouldn’t suddenly shut it down now that it is executing its intended purpose while also absorbing most if not all of the generated backlash. Not without major resistance.
But even those countries who aren’t likely profiting from it have been rather muted in their reactions. It’s rather disappointing. Only their nearby middle eastern neighbors have really had anything significant in terms of response up until recently.
The people who stand to lose the most in a situation will always act with the highest clarity and urgency. It’s true in general that we must save ourselves and can’t expect the ruling classes of other nations to step in to stop even the highest crime against humanity.
At the end of the day, the global ruling class is self-interested and only acts against that when there comes to be very few alternatives. That said, the discontent around the world is growing and it’s only a matter of time until it reaches a tipping point.
As for the non-west, nobody wants to start a war or draw the ire of the west without having much capacity to change what is happening. That’s my speculative opinion, at least. At this point I’d ask someone more knowledgeable on global politics to chime in.
Civilians are dying either way. Fuck it, launch the nukes!
For the same reason America bombed Japan: less casualties that way, and maybe we will get more femboys and anime out of them.
Fewer casualties was not the real reason.
I’ve no idea how strong North Korean nukes are, but I’d be surprised if they weren’t significantly more powerful than those used on Japan.
Besides, as repressed as the truly Orthodox Jews come off to me… there’s probably plenty of what you’re after already. Nuking them might make glow-in-the-dark femboys, tho, so there’s that…