So the right propped these goons as heroes and the left made them out to be monsters. Now it turns out they are basically redneck gestapo and I’m supposed to be mad at… Who? Why? Are we pretending that the right was blameless here and that it is not directly their fault? That an ‘overreaction’ that turned out to basically be right is to blame?
Modern liberalism is defined more by inaction. The scenario would be more like accelerationists handing the gun to the fascists while the liberals stand in the corner saying “Don’t do that,” but doing little else to stop it.
Well yes, the “Right” and Neoliberals are the same thing. A lot of what is getting lost in translation is that a lot of people do not want a return to the status quo of liberalism because it has rather reliably created this cycle.
Neoliberalism was coined in the 70’s and 80’s to describe a change to classical liberalism a’la outlines of the defining features of “Liberalism” coined by philosophers like Locke and Hume. Neoliberalism is a push for deregulation of things that get in the way of business or interests and removal of safety net systems. Think Reagan and Thatcher.
“Colloquial liberalism” is more or less a bastardization of a sort of middle of the road progressivist vibe that sets itself as the opposite of “Conservative” ones. This is more like an advertising thing for individual parties. They use “liberal” and “conservative” to market themselves to their audiences. You are supposed to get the vague impression that conservative means things like fiscally sensible or traditionally valued while “liberal” is taken to mean focused on expanding personal rights or spendy.
The problem is that colloquial libralism and actual philosophic liberalism overlap in parties like the Democrats while Conservative parties like Republicans deny that they are philosophically speaking also Liberals. So when people on the left say they hate Liberals they are meaning both Democrats and Republicans because neither of those things strictly speaking are considered “left” except in relation to each other.
So the right propped these goons as heroes and the left made them out to be monsters. Now it turns out they are basically redneck gestapo and I’m supposed to be mad at… Who? Why? Are we pretending that the right was blameless here and that it is not directly their fault? That an ‘overreaction’ that turned out to basically be right is to blame?
What the fuck is being said here?
I think your meme is missing a scene. The one where the Liberals clean and load the gun, then hand it over to the Fascists.
Modern liberalism is defined more by inaction. The scenario would be more like accelerationists handing the gun to the fascists while the liberals stand in the corner saying “Don’t do that,” but doing little else to stop it.
It’s not just “doing little else to stop it.” It’s also blocking anyone who is trying to stop it.
Strong disagree. Off the top of my head neoliberals:
That’s not nothing, that’s a lot of hard work.
Isn’t that just the agenda of the right?
Well yes, the “Right” and Neoliberals are the same thing. A lot of what is getting lost in translation is that a lot of people do not want a return to the status quo of liberalism because it has rather reliably created this cycle.
Neoliberalism was coined in the 70’s and 80’s to describe a change to classical liberalism a’la outlines of the defining features of “Liberalism” coined by philosophers like Locke and Hume. Neoliberalism is a push for deregulation of things that get in the way of business or interests and removal of safety net systems. Think Reagan and Thatcher.
“Colloquial liberalism” is more or less a bastardization of a sort of middle of the road progressivist vibe that sets itself as the opposite of “Conservative” ones. This is more like an advertising thing for individual parties. They use “liberal” and “conservative” to market themselves to their audiences. You are supposed to get the vague impression that conservative means things like fiscally sensible or traditionally valued while “liberal” is taken to mean focused on expanding personal rights or spendy.
The problem is that colloquial libralism and actual philosophic liberalism overlap in parties like the Democrats while Conservative parties like Republicans deny that they are philosophically speaking also Liberals. So when people on the left say they hate Liberals they are meaning both Democrats and Republicans because neither of those things strictly speaking are considered “left” except in relation to each other.
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Yes. And neoliberals are a right party.
Neoliberals are just Republicans waiving a rainbow flag (as long as waiving the flag doesn’t involve defending trans people.)
That could just be the one and only reply to the OP
That liberalism enables fascism.
Liberalism has as a core tenet rule-of-law and preserving the organs of bourgeois democracy.
So two things that fascists want to abolish?
In-fighting is very effective.