• neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    I want to nationalize seashores. It’s unfair rich people privatized entire coastline.

    Make them rentable. I want a private piece of seashore for vacation. But nobody should be able to own it for life.

    Same with natural resources. WTF are they owned by corpos? Anything mined and drilled should be owned by all citizens

    as sad as it is, that failed miserably in the soviet union. The soviets initially had way better computer but because all industry was publicly owned noone competed and noone bought computers which is why they fell behind the US.

    There is a sensible middle ground that allows for the pressure-driven innovation of capitalism without its extreme and unfair exploitation. We just have to find it.

    • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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      23 hours ago

      Make them rentable. I want a private piece of seashore for vacation. But nobody should be able to own it for life

      Bro, that’s even worse.

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        6 hours ago

        how would that be worse?

        everyone has the possibility to get to vacate on a private piece of seashore but noone gets to hog it and keep it from everyone else.

        • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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          1 hour ago

          Commidification of nature is bad, mkay. I’d rather see beaches be labeled as public property, like in Oregon, Hawaii, or even Texas.

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      1 day ago

      I disagree. Soviets were busy recovering from WW2 for decades while funding own allies. They were not in the position to splurge on non necessities.

      But even with that - they supplied entire population with oil, gas, electric no problems. Utilities barely cost anything even in modern russia

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        11 hours ago

        In the USSR, private plots owned by collective farm families, averaging 0.25 hectares in area, provided 30% of meat, vegetables and milk, 33% of eggs, and 59% of potatoes in 1979.

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          2 hours ago

          Bet the land was taken better care of when its a family that owns it compared to some minimum wage workers hired by a mega farm.

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            32 minutes ago

            Yes, although I was referring to the fact that every experiment in collectivized agriculture in the 20th century boils down to: A minuscule percentage of the plots were left to private initiative and those plots account for the majority of the total output.