Among supporters of The Left party, 85% favoured recognition. Backing was also high among Green (66%) and Social Democrat (52%) voters.
Support was lower among supporters of the conservative CDU/CSU alliance (48%) and the far-right Alternative for Germany (45%).
Let’s all collectivity recognise the Palestinian state, as well as Israel’s right to destroy it. Stupid times whe are living in.
Wow, even the neo-Nazis are at 45%.
In this case antisemitism helps. Awful people have their reasons to be pro-Palestine.
Isn’t this like giving Hamas a win?
Nope, this would recognize the Palestinian Authority, which is run by Fatah, which somehat controls the West Bank. Fatah are a socalist group and nearly as radical as Hamas. They are certainly willing to tollerate Israel, if they leave them alone, which is really all that can be reasonably asked for given the situation.
The PA is a corrupt cesspit and a puppet to the Zionists so this would be convenient for everyone but the Palestinians themselves.
It is the Middle East. They all suck. But just to be clear. Israel has propped up Hamas for years, to legitimize their anti Palestinian actions. Indeed they asked Muslim nations to donate to Hamas and allowed funding through, so Hamas could buy weapons.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html
Everything you said is correct, but I think it’s also important to be clear with language. Yeah the political situation is indeed unbearable but that’s also due to the previous and still ongoing colonization and the constant meddling by imperialist countries. So I just don’t want it to sound like this a God given thing.
You mean like how the founding of Israel was giving a win to the Irgun and Lehi terrorists?
Alongside the massive rest of Palestinians. Hamas is a minority. You shouldn’t deny Palestinians a win because it would grant Hamas a win.
And?
Fuck Hamas
Israel did all crimes thst hamas did in 7 of october and more for 77 years
thats bullshit and you know it
A German denying a genocide? Say it ain’t so…
Too lazy to write this down again so I’ll quote myself:
So let’s say being a member of Hamas automatically makes you a legitimate target and thus okay to kill, even if you’re a civilian or working e.g. in the health ministry. This is the current Zionist stance that Germany supports.
Almost every Israeli Jewish civilian has served in the IDF, many of them are currently reservists. By that logic, October 7 was not a "terror attack“ because most people killed were associated with the IDF or with the terrorist Israeli government if they work with them or cooperate, hence they were legitimate targets. This can be concluded as we have learned that a certain amount of "collateral damage“ is to be expected in modern warfare, which includes elders and children.
Hence, by the logic of the Zionists October 7 was a legitimate military action. If you’re disgusted by my conclusion, well that’s the disgusting logic of the Zionists.
I am disgusted with your logic chiefly because you’re implying that I approve of the current Israeli government. Which I don’t. Weirdly enough, people can have more nuanced opinions than “Israel bad” or “Palestinians bad”. You should try it some time.
Well as long as you don’t distance yourself from Zionism and all its implications that is the logical framework you’re operating in when you say "Israel has a right to exist“ or "Israel has a right to defend itself“, because Israel cannot exist without genocide and it defends itself against the victims of colonization.
Palestinians are people, which can be good or bad, same as Israelis. Israel as a state otoh is a settler colony that commits genocide. As easy as it is to say Nazi Germany bad or Apartheid South Africa or Soviet Russia bad, it is to say Israel bad, at least for me.
A state that can only exist through the subjugation, theft and murder of another people has no right to exist.
That the truth and you know it, during the nekba they rapped civilians including minors, they mass murdered civilians, they ethenically cleansed 750k palestinians including 50k christians. They are still raping, killing an torturing prisoners. They are keeping stealing west banker houses, they armed the settlers terrorists and protect them against presecusion when they kill westbankers and kill their sheeps.
sigh.
crimes of october 7th , let’s simplify things and go with “they murdered 1000 people” which is extremely generous. 365 days a year, 77 years, that would make 28 million dead and would’ve depopulated the whole region. obviously didnt happen.
Ok Zionist
I talked about war crimes being similar, not about Israel killing the same amount of people or very close every day . Stop deflecting and admit that israel is the occupying force stealing Palestinians homes , raping, killing, torturing Palestinians regularly in the previous 77 years old and are currently committing a genocide. Have some respect to yourself as a human being
And the IDF :) two things being shit at the same time and so on
Did you forget how all this was started by Hamas attack?
This is some sick genocide justifying rhetoric.
Genocide is never justified. Never.
“How dare you use liberatory violence against your oppressor, just let them extinguish your culture and people without a fight”
OFC it’s coming from a 25d old .world account LOL
The attack Israel knew was coming and actively ignored
Damn and I get comments removed for false info. I guess people pick and choose who is right.
You should be banned for being a pro occupation pro genocide
All I am saying is Hamas killed a bunch of people at a EDM festival. That started the war. Did I dream that part?
You didn’t dream the part of Hamas killing a bunch of people. The part you dreamed about was that that was a start of a war. During the 9 months of 2023 preceding the Hamas attack, violence in Palestine and Israel was widespread.
Most of those were IDF active members or reservists. If you think it’s okay to kill a Hamas member at home, Hamas can kill IDF members at a music festival. The rest who are actual civilians were collateral damage that is unavoidable in modern warfare. This is your logic not mine.
and israel killed palestinians for 77 goddamn years. Zionists got gifted a state after committing terrorism like the assassination of Lord Moyne in Cairo by Lehi militants, and The King David Hotel bombing by the Irgun
Your
hasbaratoda’a bears no weight, here.
Didn’t you know checks notes Jerusalem Post is the media arm of Hamas?
It started by israel occupying palestine doing 7 of octobers esch day
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It is typically considered a win for resistance organizations when good things happen to the people they’re supposed to be fighting for. Your point?
