cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/45880359

  • The EU Parliament is pushing for an agreement on the child sexual abuse (CSAM) scanning bill, according to a leaked memo

  • According to the Council Legal Service, the proposal still violates fundamental human rights in its current form

  • The Danish version of the so-called Chat Control could be adopted as early as October 14, 2025

The nations welcoming and supporting the Danish proposal include Italy, Spain, and Hungary. France also said that “it could essentially support the proposal.”

Belgium, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Greece, Slovenia, Luxembourg, and Romania currently remain undecided or in need of a review with their local parliament.

  • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
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    15 hours ago

    I said constitutional law, not the US constitution alone. Including declaration of independence and the surrounding history of discussion and all. Also not “says that people have”, but recognizes it as an inherent right. Naturally if such a right exists, either no law can retract it or it would be meaningless.

    And then please show me how this right to rebellion was applied when an actual rebellion occured.

    I don’t see how this is relevant. If you think it is, please explain how, explicitly and not implicitly.

    (Also one would guess that slaveholders’ right to rebellion is in significant doubt.)

    And please also take into consideration any laws regarding treason or domestic terrorism.

    Can’t override constitutional and inherent rights. Also if you don’t recognize the latter, it’s too bad but your country’s founding documents do as a basis. Basically the US constitution is toilet paper compared to unstated but mentioned in d.o.i. inherent rights, and any normal law is toilet paper compared to the US constitution.

    And people who made that system were very well educated, also very practical, and explained very thoroughly why should any system of formal rules be possible to discard by force and why inherent rights not prone to degeneracy of any formal system driven by power should exist in philosophy. They were not XX and XXI centuries’ idealists with overvalued ideas, or idiots dreaming of totalitarianism with those like them on top.

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      6 hours ago

      A law that doesn’t apply is worthless.

      Thinking that this somehow makes you or your anachronistic shithole of a country somewhat better is just plain delusional.

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        5 hours ago

        First, my anachronistic shithole of a country would be Russia.

        Second, I said right, not law. Rights are more transcendent.

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          4 hours ago

          Rights don’t exist. They are social conventions based in law. If you don’t have a law or the law isn’t enforced then you don’t have a right.

          Contrary to the name, there are no basic, inalienable human rights.

          If your right is not supported by law, it does not exist.

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            2 hours ago

            Rights don’t exist. They are social conventions based in law. If you don’t have a law or the law isn’t enforced then you don’t have a right.

            That’s your opinion which was a minority one in most of the world for most of history. Including such counterintuitive parts of it as China.

            Contrary to the name, there are no basic, inalienable human rights.

            Says who and based on what?

            If your right is not supported by law, it does not exist.

            And from which hairy arse would a law gain justification to determine someone’s rights?

            You are likely from one of the countries with English-derived legal system, where the precedent mechanism literally means that there are non-codified rights outside of the law, which the interpretation of the law has to approximate.