• PastafARRian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I don’t know what my instance believes, nor do I care.

    I wouldn’t argue against opposing both parties, or the US in general. I’m American and I choose to vote for the party that seems substantially better. Voting correctly is important, but not enough.

    Voting Republican caused Ukraine to lose its funding. I don’t side with any genocide that NATO commits but don’t forget it also protects billions of people. The game is dirty and imperfect but we should still play it to survive.

    Democrat policies reduce wealth inequality, which Republican ones increase it.

    All Nazis are Republicans. Few to none are Democrats.

    Basically none of your arguments are rooted in truth, even slightly. I doubt you will be convinced of what I’m saying.

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      Voting correctly is important

      Has voting ever produced any sort of serious effect in the US?

      Voting Republican caused Ukraine to lose its funding

      Meaning that the state of Ukraine will have less of a reason and less of an ability to avoid peace negotiations to stop the bloodshed. This is good.

      but don’t forget it also protects billions of people

      It literally does the opposite. It’s a colonial empire that is conducting a genocide right now and that has been invading everywhere in the world to keep billions of people in a colonial yoke. It only defends colonial metropoles and settler-colonies from justice.
      Furthermore, at most, it ‘protects’ about a billion of people, and not ‘billions’.

      All Nazis are Republicans. Few to none are Democrats

      They are almost all nazis. Even if one cares about electoralism, almost all Dems who could voted against reduction of military support for Pissrael.
      It’s not really arguable that at least almost all Dems are in favour of genocides and invasions - like the ones into Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Afghanistan.

      Basically none of your arguments are rooted in truth, even slightly

      Except for all of them.
      Notably, you couldn’t even provide examples of non-nazi Dems, and lied about NATO protecting billions of people and keep lying about voting being important despite having nothing to show for it.

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            Do the world a favor and stop supporting Nazis, stop claiming that your beliefs are protecting anybody. I can’t believe you think that Jews and immigrants are subhumans. I have nothing more to say to you. You’re a white supremacist, plain and simple.

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                You’re the most bad faith genocide apologist. That makes your worse and I win. Most is worse than least.

                See? I can drive a false narrative too. It’s easy. Just remove the gray. All black and white. 2 colors is easier than a spectrum. Keep working on those debate skills kiddo.

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                    Nope I win the argument. Whoever gets the last word in wins the argument. Now I’m closing my eyes so you can’t get the last argument. I can’t hear you!!! Naaa naa na naaa.

                    Sorry thought I’d debate on your level for a bit.

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              Do the world a favor and stop supporting Nazis

              Well, I’m not the one who is supporting nazis. You, on the other hand, have been insistent that half of your governing nazis are not nazis.

              I can’t believe you think that Jews and immigrants are subhumans

              Notably, I never said anything against either of those groups (whom both Dems and Reps have been acting against, with both of Obama’s terms being the most ICE-happy time period), but it’s pretty evident from your reaction that you think that being against a Lebensraum-style genocide must mean that I’m opposed to some ethnic group.

              You are in favour of displacing and killing Palestinians, aren’t you?

              You’re a white supremacist, plain and simple

              This is silly and very backwards.
              You have literally been arguing about how the blue brand of white supremacists in your government is awesome, and how NATO - the organisation dedicated to white supremacist colonialism - is great.

              EDIT: Also, what are the blue-brand white supremacists that are non-nazis that you can name?

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                Oh sorry. I thought we were both at the “completely mis-characterizing each other’s arguments” phase. I mean, based on your replies and everything I thought that’s what you were going for.

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                  Firstly, still waiting for you to name any of the non-nazi Dems. Do you have at least five names?

                  Secondly, if you think that I mischaracterised your arguments, can you point to any such mischaracterisations?
                  Have you not argued that NATO - the world’s most prolific aggressor and the world’s premier white supremacist polity - is somehow good?
                  Have you not argued that voting is somehow important in the US despite having produced no results to speak of throughout its history?
                  Have you not implied that the Lebensraum in Palestine should not be stopped and that the homes and land should not be given back to their rightful owners?

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                    You have several grammar and spelling mistakes in your post. Since part of you is imperfect, all of you is imperfect and therefore your argument that you yourself are “good” is irrelevant. Can you name at least five good things you’ve done? Still waiting.

                    Have you not argued that tomatoes are vegetables?

                    If you can think of any, and I mean ANY mischaracterizations I’ve made about anything you’ve said I’m absolutely eager to hear them.

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      I don’t side with any genocide that NATO commits BUT

      Absolutely soulless people.