As a queer person (agender) with a conservative dad, I don’t get why he says he wants to go back to the 1950s. What was so special back then besides his reasoning that times were simpler? I feel like it would be harder for me then as a queer person.

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    I want the economy of the 50s and civil rights for everyone.

    Sadly, it seems like we’re moving the economy further away from the 50s and only bringing civil rights back there…

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      I want the economy of the 50s

      so, prosperity based off of genociding and overworking brown people abroad?

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        There were plenty of local jobs that paid better than jobs today do (adjusted for CoL) and needed less education etc.

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        We both know you know what was meant. Don’t be like a republican. Have a good day.

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          no, you don’t seem to know what i meant.

          your comfort and booming economy is a direct result of your imperialism and owning the world’s currency. “the economy of the 50s” was fueled by blood.

          don’t be an apologist for it. don’t be like a republican.

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            Oh I know what you meant, exactly. It’s grade school history. It’s also the same take repeated endlessly on internet forums where pedantry and needing to spell out every single facet rule supreme. So I guess I’ll spell it out. “The economy refers to the fact someone was able to pay for a home, family, and yearly vacation on an entry level, high school diploma as the only requirement job. The civil rights and liberties people are stating as the one thing they didn’t want to bring to modern times.”

            I’m going to assume you know why someone would want that without the abuse of minorities, immigrants, or third world countries.

            Or you can just pull the same thing everyone else does and state, “A society like that couldn’t exist without that exploitation.” like the true unique free thinker you are. To which I say prove it. We’ve always had a rich parasite class that needed exploitation, those who are fine without being far wealthier than others are perfectly capable of doing fine without the exploitation, its the leeches that require it.

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              Ah it’s always the same with those ideologically blinded people.

              Capitalism is inherently bad blah blah

              Socialism can never work blah blah

              It’s all bullshit. Capitalism does not matter, socialism does not matter. How we call it does not matter. What matters is that a society is healthy, sustainable and prospering.

              The main problem of all theories is the confrontation with reality - each set of values or ideology is as much worth as the people who (supposedly) follow it.

              In any system we ever built, there are greedy, corrupt, powerful people, who like shit, always somehow end up swimming at the top. And then everything begins to rot.