• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
    393·
    1 day ago

    The soviet space program took fewer lives than the US’s program, yet the US constantly made it seem like it was the soviets that didn’t care about human lives.

    • Bldck@beehaw.orgEnglish
      825·
      23 hours ago

      I mean… not really.

      🛰️ Space Race Fatalities Comparison: Soviet Union vs United States

      Aspect 🇺🇸 United States 🇷🇺 Soviet Union
      Total astronaut/cosmonaut deaths 9–10 (incl. test/training accidents) 8 (official)
      On-mission fatalities 3 (Apollo 1, ground test) 4 (Soyuz 1, Soyuz 11)
      Training/test deaths (astronauts) 6+ (e.g. Theodore Freeman, C.C. Williams) 4+ (e.g. Valentin Bondarenko, others possibly unacknowledged)
      Deaths among ground personnel <10 100+ (notably the Nedelin disaster)
      Transparency High (accidents publicized and investigated) Low (many incidents hidden until after 1989)
      Major catalyst event Apollo 1 fire Soyuz 1, Nedelin disaster
      Key Takeaways
      • 🇺🇸 U.S. suffered more astronaut fatalities, including test pilots and training accidents.
      • 🇷🇺 Soviets had higher total human losses, especially among engineers and soldiers during explosive launch and fuel testing incidents.
      • 🔥 The Apollo 1 fire led to sweeping design and safety reforms in NASA.
      • 🚨 The Soyuz 1 and Soyuz 11 tragedies were fatal in-flight accidents; Soyuz 11 remains the only in-space human fatality.
      • 🕵️ The Nedelin disaster, one of the worst rocket catastrophes in history, killed over 100 but was kept secret for decades.
      • 🧾 Transparency and institutional accountability were key differences: NASA publicly investigated accidents; the USSR often concealed failures.
      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
        231·
        23 hours ago

        You can certainly blur the space race with missile development as they were intimately tied on both sides, and if you want to include it then the deaths from the US ICBM disasters need to be included as well, but I do think it’s a bit absurd to uncritically report that 100+ people died in Nedelin when official numbers revealed it to be 54. Plus, wherever you sourced this from is clearly generally biased against the soviets beyond the scope of this report.

        • Gloomy@mander.xyz
          1·
          31 minutes ago

          It’s true that all deaths on both sides were caused by people with JEWISH names. Coincidence? Not likley. Hitler killed less people. Elon is god. Sieg. Sieg!1!!!1

          Grok, probably