I think it’s quite fair to assume that when people use the term China in isolation, they are referring to the authoritarian dictatorship state controlled by the CCP, The Peoples Republic of China.
ROC a governmental body, still holds onto the idea that it is the sole rightful “owner” of all the territories of pre-1949 China. Good for them, a little far from reality but I can’t blame them for having dreams.
A significant portion of the people of Taiwan do not under any circumstances want to be part of anything under rule of the CCP, which in reality means that they do not want to be part of the Peoples Republic of China. The ROC, on the other hand, still wants to hold into the idea of their claim over the whole region, so it’s interests are in conflict with the people’s in that regard.
Thus! Taiwan is an independent state from the PRC because the chances of the PRC being governed by anyone but the CCP is slim to none.
I note you went straight to swearing at me, quoting my own “fuck right off” which was directed at a government and not any individual. I’m sure you understand why this doesn’t make me any more likely to support your stance, but do try to be kinder.
stopped reading here; what’s the point of having a more in depth discussion with someone who’s political analysis is on the level of Saturday morning cartoons. I reiterate that you should fuck off back to reddit, you’ll be happier there.
You may not realize this, but, for people who aren’t western anglos, casual orientalism and western chauvinism is just as disrespectful and unkind as ‘ad hominems’.
Did you even think before writing that? What am I saying, of course you didn’t.
the ROC doesn’t consider th Taiwan to be an independent state
Because they lose any possible claim to their continuity as the rightful government of China by doing so. Also, the CCP would be quite pissy about that.
Even the ROC doesn’t consider Taiwan to be an independent state, but go off. Or better yet, fuck right off back to reddit.
No :)
Let’s see. How can I break this down.
I think it’s quite fair to assume that when people use the term China in isolation, they are referring to the authoritarian dictatorship state controlled by the CCP, The Peoples Republic of China.
ROC a governmental body, still holds onto the idea that it is the sole rightful “owner” of all the territories of pre-1949 China. Good for them, a little far from reality but I can’t blame them for having dreams.
A significant portion of the people of Taiwan do not under any circumstances want to be part of anything under rule of the CCP, which in reality means that they do not want to be part of the Peoples Republic of China. The ROC, on the other hand, still wants to hold into the idea of their claim over the whole region, so it’s interests are in conflict with the people’s in that regard.
Thus! Taiwan is an independent state from the PRC because the chances of the PRC being governed by anyone but the CCP is slim to none.
I note you went straight to swearing at me, quoting my own “fuck right off” which was directed at a government and not any individual. I’m sure you understand why this doesn’t make me any more likely to support your stance, but do try to be kinder.
stopped reading here; what’s the point of having a more in depth discussion with someone who’s political analysis is on the level of Saturday morning cartoons. I reiterate that you should fuck off back to reddit, you’ll be happier there.
Ad hominem attacks will get you no prizes.
I reiterate that you should try your hand at being kinder.
Goodbye!
You may not realize this, but, for people who aren’t western anglos, casual orientalism and western chauvinism is just as disrespectful and unkind as ‘ad hominems’.
Did you even think before writing that? What am I saying, of course you didn’t.
Because they lose any possible claim to their continuity as the rightful government of China by doing so. Also, the CCP would be quite pissy about that.
So you admit I’m correct, but insult me anyway. Why bother?