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  • I have, you are missing the point. You seem to be suggesting that what is happening in Gaza is dispicable but can’t be labelled as a “holocaust” nor, arguably, a “genocide”. So this is a semantic argument based on your personal perception of the word holocaust and genocide. Do you have a more appropriate word for what is happening in Gaza? Unfortunately “Gazans are being treated despicably” probably doesn’t capture the whole 50000+ people dead and more dying due to military strikes, starvation and lack of clean water and medical care. See the funny thing with English is that when we don’t have a word for something we borrow one, or use one that describes a similar situation… But, yeah the important thing is that no body should compare this documented genocide with any other genocide especially not the worst one ever documented in detail.



  • I disagree. The holocaust is documented as the worse genocide in history by several metrics. Any other mass killing should be juxtaposed to it (and others) to see the similarities and differences. If a nation begins to kill people under the same ideology that birthed the holocaust ( or any other genocide) it should be documented, called out and prevented from doing so, so we don’t get another holocaust or holodomor or Cambodian genocide or Rwandan genocide… If we hold the holocaust as something unique and separate, we make the mistake that it can not happen again. Europeans in Australia spent about 150 years trying to wipe outs it’s indigenous population. ~84% population decline. Systematic destruction of culture. Policies of displacement, family destruction and to breed them out. This was not the holocaust. But the similarities are there. We should absolutely be looking at what is happening in Palestine/Israel to see if the same rationale used for the Holocaust is in play.








  • Interesting history lesson.

    Is the implication that Spitzspot is a fascist / communist and anti-Semite because they said Slava Ukrani?

    They well may be, but that’s a big call based on the use of a phrase which has seen a rapid evolution in it’s usage in the last few years.

    Are all Hindi and buddists and Jainists who continue to use the swastika as a part of their religious symbolism anti-Semite fascists as well?

    Is Kim Jong Un a proponent of individual rights and liberties because he leads the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea?

    I’m guessing there’s a few Americanism’s that’d have the same complex history.

    Slava Ukrani may have it’s origins in fascism, but right now across the english speaking world it is seen as a Clarion call championing the freedom of a democratic Ukraine against the current fascist Russian regime.

    Words have more than one meaning, and those meanings evolve.