I honestly dont know what would drive a Windows refugee to choose such a niche and likely unable to support them distro.

I get the impression a lot of people think that framework are a lot bigger than they actually are, in reality they are not much more than a start up

I was sold a device (pixel) that runs the software I want, if Google is taking that away, Google should offer to buy back my phone. Without Fdroid or control of my device its no longer fit for purpose

All I really need is calls, sms, a solid browser and some more robost messaging apps like signal and matrix/element - I’m a prime candidate for PostmarketOS if we ever get a stable piece of hardware. I have an old oneplus 6 that I’ve played with it on, its so close. If a flip phone could master that today, sure

I do use tap to pay, but meh I dont think I would miss it and android auto in my car could easily just be a bluetooth audio connection

I’m not sure why google is over engineering this, proper mainline distros have this solved since forever. Let the community setup trusted repos with gpg keys, then let me trust the repos. If Fdroid trusts the package and I trust Fdroid, who should care?

don’t stream, download your porn from usenet like a civilised person

Here in Australia, they are almost gone. Disney doesn’t release anymore and other studios only release the biggest of titles, smaller movies get less and less releases. Some TV shows only get DVD. Its got me importing discs for things I really want and importing a lot of stuff from the high seas

you don’t need my permission mate, I honestly don’t know why I have earned your derision??

I thought so, and its not something Ublue has started using yet to my knowledge - there’s some good potential that a lot of stuff they add could just become a set of extensions you can plug in like Lego bricks

I’ve never had issues with Discover on Fedora KDE and then even when I moved to Kinoite. I didnt have any issues using it on my Bazzite machine. I wanted it back, I also wanted to see if it was something I could do with a SysExt, which as I said is something I’m excited about, as I have started using them to add stuff on my Kinoite work machine.

It doesn’t take Bazaar away, it just puts the items back for anyone who wants it. Spoiled for choice

Yes I use Kinoite as my work machine and I’ve used Tim Ravier’s sysext repo for adding libvirtd, distrobox, wireshark and vscode to that machine. I also authored my own that adds nmap, iperf, telnet, screen and a few other command line tools I make use of at work. I find this easier than juggling toolboxes for it

I also said ublue is free to do what they want, why are you attacking me for suggesting I want to put something back the way it was? I never asked for your attention, I’m not pestering the developers about it, instead I attempted to author a fix for anyone who also is not a fan of the change.

Yes, I dont like a core system tool not being part of my desktop, I dont want my updates to fire via a timer, and I have updated my ostree via discover on my bazzite box. I understand a lot of your target audience does want those things, an appliance type experience - I even suggested 2 posts up that perhaps bazzite was no longer for me as the target audience.

I appologise for drawing your ire

edit: FYI I’m not some bad faith poster, having defended bazaar - Also my particular bazzite box has been rebased between Fedora and Aurora, probably accumulated some artifacts in the process, which may explain why my discover had not been previously hobbled. Have a good night

the ublue project / bazzite decided to make their own flatpak first app store called Bazaar. Fair enough its their distro. However they created it with GTK4/Adwaita libraries, so its a Gnome native app and looks completely ugly on a KDE Plasma desktop. Also as a flatpak first app store it doesn’t update anything else on your machine like what discover is capable of (cant update ostree, knew stuff etc). This means you have to use the ujust terminal app to access updates, which I dont agree with.

I think technically you could layer it back in with rpm-ostree install kdediscover - however this pulls back a couple of hundred meg of plasma dependencies, which if you’re not aware, when you update your system would be redownloaded and reinstalled with each new ostree snapshot, slowing down the update process even further. I I tried doing it as a sysext (myrepo) but it keeps segfaulting and I havent worked out the issue edit: I have fixed the segfault issue and readded the ostree backend. Sysexts are new experienmental alternative to package layering which hold a lot of potential (check out tim ravier’s development of them here https://travier.github.io/fedora-sysexts/)

I couldnt see one - I also dont want to layer it, because it will pull in a couple of hundred megs of kde dependencies every time you update. I tried doing it as a sysext (myrepo) but it keeps segfaulting and I havent worked out the issue

The removal of KDE Discover has me considering going back to plain Kinoite on my HTPC. I figure I can build a sysext with the handful of bazzite bits I actually use and keep the unbutchered plasma experience

I mean in my case I work in a school that tries to use a lot of open source, at least on the back end, so the toys aren’t hastening our destruction as much as they could be?

A senior systems administrator is like a superhero for computers! Imagine you have a big toy box full of different toys (which are like computers and programs). The senior systems administrator makes sure all the toys are working well, that they are clean, and that everyone can play with them safely.

If a toy breaks, the superhero knows how to fix it. They also help everyone learn how to use the toys properly so that no one gets hurt. They keep everything organized and make sure the toy box is always ready for fun!

I’ve been sysadmin where I work for 12 years, Ive been using Linux as my OS there all that time except the first month. After that month I asked the IT manager if he cared what OS I use. He said he didn’t care so long as it didn’t impede me getting the work done. The junior sysadmin who started a year ago now also uses Linux and my manager wishes he could too (he does too much Microsoft office to get away with it)

no one wants to sit in their office talking to their computer verbally, its fucking awkward. Its cool on star trek as a means of exposition and plot, but not in real life.

Start fixing the actual architecture issue of Windows. An immutable base system and modular containerised app workflow might be a start, but we already have that in every other operating system

I wasn’t trying to make them feel bad, I thought the absurdity was clear. I will mark it the an /s next time